Leafs trade rumours 5

02 Apr 2024 15:26:40
Islanders Trade
Pulock
3rd Round Pick 2025

Leafs Trade
Kampf
Liljegren
1st Round Pick 2026 (Lottery Protected)


Thoughts ?

03 Apr 2024 13:04:48
Islanders might. Pullock is now their #2RD. They have no cap space next year and lots of spots to fill. A solid deal imo. Pullock is a guy that I have thought would be a good target. I would imagine that the Isle would want picks and prospects mostly though as they need cap space.

03 Apr 2024 14:46:28
I don't think it's enough, but maybe not far off.

03 Apr 2024 18:06:28
I was very unimpressed with the trade which means it's probably realistic.

02 Apr 2024 05:55:17
Leafs trade Marner

Islanders Dobson 1st 2024 1st 2024

Leafs signed another beauty Jacob Quillan is 8 months older than Knies and very similar numbers to Knies in college

It's getting really crowded up front folks

Bertuzzi Matthews Domi
McMann Tavares Nylander
Knies Holmberg Robertson ( Marner )
Reaves Kampf Jarnknok
Quillan Cowan Minter


I think 3 things are clear Bertuzzi is not coming back. Decision on Domi hasn't been made yet
And Kampf and Jarnknok are being traded b4 draft

About Quillan he is a Kampf type of player with much more scoring ability

He is center who plays hard in all three zones really good on penelty kill

We should see him the final few games of this year .

I love Leafs going forward

02 Apr 2024 06:02:13
In what world is a 1D, on a solid contract, being traded for Marner with 2 1sts at that?

I don't understand your evaluation of Marner. Have you confused Marner with Mcdavid? They both start with "M" I guess.

02 Apr 2024 12:37:16
Leafslife I read yours before his, I assumed it was 2 firsts from the leafs lol.

02 Apr 2024 15:11:37
I see trees of green
Red roses too
I see them bloom
and I think to myself
What a wonderful world.

03 Apr 2024 02:24:08
Not sure if I am reading this proposal correctly.
You want Lou to send Dobson plus two 1st round picks to the Leafs for Marner?
I would highly doubt that.
Yes, Marner is one of the top wingers in the league!
But Dobson is one of the top young defensemen in the league, a first pairing, #2, RHD.
Off the top of my head I can only think of Makar, Hughes, Fox and Heiskanen who would rank ahead of him among young defensemen.
On top of that he is right handed.
A straight up trade of Marner or Nylander (Islanders choice) for Dobson might peak Lou’s interest!

01 Apr 2024 20:47:15
So, this is the perfect target for the Leafs defence imo. I have brought up Lauzon many times, but he would be the perfect guy for the Leafs. Yes, he shoots left, but he plays the right side often and the Leafs need to chase a guy like Roy if he becomes available

Nash
Robertson RFA
Steeves RFA
Gregor RFA

Tor
Lauzon $2M
Afanasyev RFA

Nash picks up speed, youth and potential scoring. Leafs pick up a physical D and a player that could use a change of scenery, like Steeves, he has produced in the A.

01 Apr 2024 23:38:10
RLF

Robertson has some wheels

If Keefe installs Jarnknok to bench Robinson I don't know what to think but fire him!

02 Apr 2024 00:48:29
WeatherMac. Yes, he has wheels. This isn't the playoffs though. The better he plays, the more his value. I'm good with that.

02 Apr 2024 03:19:25
I don't know who Nash is but as we can see with Robertson he is going to be a perennial 30 to 40 goal scorer

Put robertson with Marner Holmberg down the middle then Tavaras between McMann or Knies and Nylander.

02 Apr 2024 03:31:05
RLF

Why do you insist on trading 22 year old Robertson when there is strong evidence he will put up 30 to 35 goals. I’m being conservative on that estimate it’s minimum he gets over 82 game.

You know Marner is one of the best set up men in NHL.

TELL ME IN DRAFT PICKS WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR ROBERTSON?

02 Apr 2024 06:03:03
@DM eight firsts. It would be insane to trade Robertson for less.

I'm also think of Mcdavid for Marner.

02 Apr 2024 12:15:15
weathermac. I just showed you what Robertson is worth. Tell me which actual 22 year old 30-35 minimum goals player you are referring to and I will tell you what kind of picks I think he is worth.

02 Apr 2024 20:07:14
What evidence is there he’s gonna score 35? He’s on pace for about 19 over an 82 game season. There won’t be room for him going forward.

03 Apr 2024 02:33:31
Robertson may go on to score quite a few goals in his career but the problem is, at the moment, he is a a fairly one dimensional player.
He has a great shot.
But he doesn’t defend well, doesn’t hit or block shots much, doesn’t penalty kill and isn’t a shut down player.

A lot will depend on whether Leafs resign Bertuzzi and/ or Domi.
Along with McMann and Knies there are only so many left wing slots available on a team and Robertson isn’t a 4th line player.
So that leaves 3 LW positions to fill.
If Leafs resign Bertuzzi and have just resigned McMann (a better 2 way player, and will definitely be keeping Knies, where does Robertson slot into the lineup.

03 Apr 2024 16:19:29
Agree WB.

01 Apr 2024 20:00:23
Not sure how valuable LaCombe is to Anaheim, but they do have 2 higher LD prospects in Mintyukov & Zellweger.

To Toronto
LaCombe RFA

To Anaheim
Robertson RFA
2024 4th
Voit ELC

I think LaCombe has the potential to fill the 2LD slot, along side Lily (if Leafs decide to keep him after the playoff run) .

Future Dpairs
Rielly - Roy
LaCombe - Lily
Benoit - McCabe
Timmins

Do the values make sense?

Thoughts?

01 Apr 2024 20:32:34
Tags. Man, I do not want to imagine LaCombe and Lily as our 2nd pair. lol
I may be wrong on LaCombe, but I don't see a #3 development out of this guy (As you know I have Lily as a #5). LaCombe hasn't been able to translate his offence at the pro level, he isn't very physical and defence is not his strong suit. They are trying to work on his defence in Anaheim this season, but he is lost at times. Who knows, he just turned 23, so there is room for improvement. At this point, it is Robertson straight up imo. I wouldn't add more as I am not sold on him. He wouldn't be my target.

01 Apr 2024 22:08:55
RLF I'm not sure how good this guy will be, but I too was hesitant to put him and Lily together.
I was going to slot him on the 3rd pairing initially (since he has played his off side) and then move him up if he develops.
Maybe they try
Rielly- Roy
McCabe - Lily
Benoit - LaCombe.

02 Apr 2024 03:53:15
No no no no Lacombe for Robertson straight up and you have added Voit and a pick. Robertson will put up 35 goals next year. Leafs have leverage on Robertson and around 2 million bucks will be a steal. If leaf's can get him @2 million til he is UFA.

I don't have year Robertson becomes a UFA maybe after 25-26 season I'm guessing.

Don't trade Robertson McMamm or Holmberg next season that's $4.5 million for maybe 60 to 70 goals min.

To all you guys next season will be the best we have seen since Mathew's &marmer arrived. Great UFA players are coning and we have 6 emerging forwards here or arrive soon

Knies
Robertson
Mcmann
Holmberg
Cowan
Minten.

01 Apr 2024 16:12:25
At The Draft.

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Liljegren
Grebyonkin (KHL)
1st Round Pick 2024

Washington Trades
Carlson
3rd Round Pick 2024 (Bruins Pick)


Capitals in not a complete rebuild but retool to get younger will be on the table imo for next season, this type of trade proposal will do this, Carlson has been an outstanding Defenceman over the years for Washington but with his age and probably still having value this proposal makes sense.

Leafs will be focusing on improving Defense and Carlson gives them more offence on the Blueline, as well as veteran leadership, players like Edmundson and Lyubushkin are tough hitting Defencemen that I believe Toronto also tries to resign which will give a better balance for next season.



Thoughts ?

01 Apr 2024 18:18:05
As much as Carlson has been a great defenceman for a very long time now, he's showing his age a bit. This isn't a deal I'd do.

03 Apr 2024 02:40:19
I see this as a substantial overpayment.
Carlson is already 34 years old and recently played his 1,000th game.
His skills and ability will do nothing but deteriorate over the coming years.
Liljegren, Robertson, Grebyonkin and a 1st is a large portion of Leafs youth for a guy that has two or three left in his career.
Not something I would be happy to see Trevling do.

01 Apr 2024 13:15:46
Leafs trade Marner

Avalanche trade Maker

This one might work for Leaf's the talents are equal Maker is a year younger and considering Marner will want $12 million and Maker makes $9 million next 4 years leaf's save 3million per year

Marner talents can be replaced much more easily than Matthews

01 Apr 2024 13:56:17
Colorado laughs in your face and then asks if you want mackinnon thrown in as well.

01 Apr 2024 13:59:06
Avs have zero interest in trading the best D in the NHL for Marner. Zero.

01 Apr 2024 14:40:02
Avs tell them to include Reilly, and more.

01 Apr 2024 16:10:36
No sorry folks all them
Guys here look upon Leaf players as second rate and other teams are mega stars compare McKinnon and Marner numbers last 5 years

McKinnon 484 age 28

Marner 406 age 26


All day look you guys slag leaf players and put other teams talent on the moon

Avs would do Marner for Maker in a second.

01 Apr 2024 17:33:33
mackinnon plays centre and has put up 20% more points than Marner.

Also Makar is the best at his position in the NHL. Marner is top 5 maybe top 10 at his. Marners position is the easiest to fill in the NHL, Makar's is the second hardest. Behind goalie ( talking the vasilevsky, Lundquist, Brodeur, type goalies not replacement level.

01 Apr 2024 18:20:23
I can't believe weathermackin actually thinks this is fair lol.

Makar is a generational defenceman. He's solid at both ends, works hard, just a fantastic player on a great contract.

If you want someone like Makar, it costs Mathews. Historically 1D for 1C is the price. That's the only way Avs agree, and even then, they need Makar a lot more than Mathews.

01 Apr 2024 20:08:35
It's not about trashing Leafs players, its about living in reality and evaluating honestly. Marner is an excellent player. Makar is possibly the best defenceman in the entire league making less than Marner.
Av's say no. And no black hole of climate related events is going to change that.

03 Apr 2024 02:42:19
Any GM that trades a #1, Norris Trophy winner for a winger deserves to lose his job!

01 Apr 2024 01:00:53
Buffalo trade Perturka
Leafs trade Robertson

Perturka I may have spelling wrong I can't double Cheak it. He presently plays on the sabres top line. Now if Robertson had Marner on his line I'm sure Robertson blows by Perturka numbers

RLF this season because Robertson being waiver exempt he hasn't had the greatest opportunity but his AHL days are now over and next year he is going to get much better chance to succeed.

McMann Robertson and Holmberg have graduated and Kampf and Jarnknok are getting traded so a third round pick comes back.

01 Apr 2024 03:58:46
I don’t expect the leafs to go very far in playoffs but they could go all the way. It depends how the big boys do at playoff time

I’m more interested as to who they sign as the season ends. What’s there plans for Bertuzzi and Domi will they take less to get up to a 5 year deal . In Bertuzzi case he has to take a lot less $3.5 million but again I give him 5 years

It todays NHL the stars are going to get paid but Bertuzzi and Domi are only supporting players. Leafs are taking big chance investing in these two so they must take less Domi $2.5 million on 3 or 4 year deal.

The bonus for them is they get to play with Matthews . Austin can carry both of them as Marner can carry Robertson and Holmberg . Tavares gets Nylander and McMann

To me that’s three lines that can score . Marner just feeding Robertson as he did to Matthews would be great to see

But not to worry if this blows up in April or early may Trevliving is much better equipped to make this team 25 points better next year. Top 6 forward and 2 defencemen three goalies Woll Jones Hiildeby.

01 Apr 2024 04:31:52
Off topic here in NBA draft do you think raptors should draft Edey

Clingam is rated at 13 and the best I see for Eday is 18 and as low as 44

This kid would need double teaming and open up raptor shooters

Thoughts on Edey ?

01 Apr 2024 05:30:16
Peterka: 26g, 20a, 46pts, +10
6’0”, 189lbs

I don’t think Buffalo is trading him For Robertson!

01 Apr 2024 12:21:36
Not getting Peterka for Robertson. I had Peterka in many props in the past before he made the Sabres last year and no one really wanted him back then. Not getting him now.

01 Apr 2024 18:21:22
I liked how Mackin worded that "I don't think they'll make it far, but they might win the cup"

In a few months weathermackin will set a trap and tell us he was right lol.

01 Apr 2024 19:16:50
Think he’s saying there is a slight chance.

01 Apr 2024 20:10:17
Yes, the weatherman is known for saying there is a slight chance. Slight chance of rain. Slight chance of snow. Slightly windy. Slight chance of a Cup. etc etc.

03 Apr 2024 15:23:53
But Robertson 35 goals.
If he this and that.

31 Mar 2024 15:33:21
Tor: lily, Robertson
But: jokiharju, krebs

01 Apr 2024 01:39:10
Leaf's probably draft a defencemen. With 1 st this yeas. The team have many forwards that are breaking into top 9

Knies McMann Robertson Holmberg Cowan Minten


Liljegren maxium next contract is 3 million over 4 years that's what I would offer

That's a good number for the leafs and considering Liljegren is right sided I wouldn't move him

End of the road

Brodie
Giordano

In the mix next season

Benoit
Niemela
Timmins

Locks next season

Reilly
McCabe
Liljegren

Ufa targets

Pesce 4 years 5 million
Skjei 4 years 5 million.

01 Apr 2024 05:36:26
Pesce, at 29 years of age, is reportedly looking for that final, big contract with term 6 - 7 year at $6.5M - $7M.

I think Leafs might be better off financially to look at Matt Roy and/ or Sean Walker.

31 Mar 2024 14:21:15
Mackin

Buf
Robertson RFA

Tor
Jokiharju RFA

I had put this out before and it makes a ton of sense for both teams if Robertson is as good a s you say. Buffalo gets a "30" goal scorer and Toronto gets a mid pair RD. Both young. Both RFA's. Leafs can then look for a 2nd pair, Big LD which is easier to find than an RD, to play with Jokiharju.

Rielly McCabe
Big LD Jokiharju
Benoit (Boosh?)

31 Mar 2024 16:09:13
RLF do you really think Jokiharju is better than Liljegren?
I haven't really seen much if Jim, buy from what I have, he doesn't do anything for me.
If we're trading Robertson for a Dman I would much rather target Ferraro, who I think offers much more than Jokiharju. Don't know what else is needed from the Leafs in that deal, but this is the way I'd rather go.
And then target Roy or Pesce in the off season.

31 Mar 2024 17:15:37
Tags, yes, I think Jokiharju is better. I think he is smarter with the puck and his defensive reads are better. I think he is a #4 and Lily a #5. I would trade Lily and bring in Jokiharju if it was straight up for Robertson like I showed. You could still bring in Roy for instance.
Rielly Roy
McCabe Jokiharju
Benoit Timmins/?

I'm really good with that. Then if you can sign say Trenin (Yes, I am still on Trenin lol), who is playing 4C in Colorado btw, you start to build upfront as well. If this happens, then I am good with moving Robertson, Liljegren and probably even Jarnkrok if Domi and/ or Bertuzzi are brought back.

31 Mar 2024 18:10:43
RLF no doubt that could work, but I'm still not sold on Jokiharju as you are (I think he or Lily can play #4 spot with an upgrade at #3). Also, I think Jokiharju's next contract will be $1/ $1.5M higher than Lily's.
Rielly Roy
Ferraro Liljegren
Benoit McCabe
Timmins or UFA (Bortuzzo, probably sign him for same as Timmins)

I think I'd rather trade Kampf in the off season and re-sign Dewar ($1.15M) 4C, he has shown we'll IMO.

31 Mar 2024 19:49:40
I would be ok young asset vs young asset

But regardless of what happens leafs this spring

They have dollars to fix the defence if we plug in what we have you see what’s missing

Reilly —————
McCabe Liljegren
Binot Niemelä

You could upgrade the 4 hole and slide Liljegren down to 6 th D

PESCE is a good target leafs just need to bid high.

31 Mar 2024 21:25:15
I don’t make that trade right now; maybe in the off-season we shop Robertson but I’d like to delay that decision until the year is over.

Jokiharju is another Liligren; everything except the number of games played screams the same thing.

Both 2017 picks, Lili 17th overall and Jokiharju 29th. Similar size, Lili’s offence is better. RLF mentions better reads; I don’t see him that much so I cannot really offer an alternative view except what I see the few times the Leafs play the Sabres.

Lili has played 193 games to Jokiharju’s 340 so again let’s see if Lili steps up his game. He’s carrying the puck with more confidence of late.

01 Apr 2024 00:41:40
Yes Rsears, I think we're all just talking about trading in the off season.

01 Apr 2024 00:44:17
Tags. Yes. I didn't think that part needed to be explained as no playoff teams make trades right now.

01 Apr 2024 12:41:31
I guess I was speaking more to making the decision later as opposed to right now.

01 Apr 2024 19:17:50
No explanation needed.
The TDL has come and gone.

31 Mar 2024 10:38:00
Leafs trade Timmins

Arizona 4 th round pick

I think leafs should target the Carolina second line Pesce. And Skjei both large men 63 210 lbs

Carolina are going have trouble.keeping free agents

31 Mar 2024 02:18:44
Leafs trade Jarnknok and Kampf

Arizonia 3 Rd round piv


With Knies Robertson Holmberg and McMann all needing waivers starting next season the days of Jarnknok and Kampf are coming to a end in Toronto

31 Mar 2024 05:28:22
Robinson scored again . Keefe won’t do it but when Marner gets back I hope the lines are

Bertuzzi Matthews Domi
McMann Tavares Nylander
Robertson Holmberg Marner l
Knies Kampf Jarnknok

Matthews will score playing with anyone. Look his goal in the sequence the puck comes to him three times


Marner needs someone to get pucks stand in front of net that’s Holmberg. Also you put sniper Robertson for one timers

This can finally be a three line hockey team. The top line is running don’t mess with it when Marner returns. McMann is really nice on the second line.


Knies unfortunately needs to drop to forth line. I want the second best shooter on the line with Marner.

31 Mar 2024 10:22:50
RLF

Teuvo Teravainen is on the verge of free agency

His current salary is $5.4 million

I don't k ow what he will get in free agency his point totals have never been great yet he signed that big co teach

Goals last 10 seasons. This year going backwards

21 12. 22. 5 15 21 23 15. 13 4

His assist totals are not great either


My point is Robertson is restricted the leafs will probably tell him he gets same am Benoit and McMann

You just don't trade 22 EMERGiNG players like that that are just over 1 million bucks.

31 Mar 2024 14:14:37
Mackin. If you are saying that Robertson's best season will be 23 goals like Teravainen's has been, don't you think we can find a big man instead that scores 15-23 per season?

Plus, if Robertson is as good as you say he is, or will be, he should be able to land the Leafs a young, top 4 RD. Which do the Leafs need more, Robertson or a top 4 RD?