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14 Jun 2015 04:08:16
TOR - Jonathan Drouin, 2015 1st round pick
TAM - Phil Kessel (TOR retains some salary)
1.) 14 Jun 2015 13:35:51
Kessel should and will fetch more than that
2.) 14 Jun 2015 14:05:22
Don't think TB has a 2015 1st. Traded it too get Coburn
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15 Jan 2017 05:41:53
OH BOY have the leafs been killing it lately! At the beginning of the year I was thinking it was another bottom 5 finish and grabbing a solid D prospect (was hoping for Liljegren), but with the playoffs in sight I'm not sure what to think!
Do you guys believe the leafs have a strong enough core to push for it all in the future?
Babs hates losing and as weird as it sounds part of me is believing I wish we weren't doing as well because I'm not sure we have a team that could potentially make it all the way with the assets we have. I know possible trades could occur and players could be added/ replaced, but still I'm still a bit skeptical. What do you guys think?
1.) 17 Jan 2017 15:23:03
The playoffs are a good possibility. If you're talking Cup. you had better relax, that's not happening, they are too young and inexperienced and need better d-men
16 Oct 2016 04:25:50
Great game tonight by the Leafs! Young guns really showed some of their potential and showed we can do OK this year (and I really mean OK, not great) . After tonight's performance it got me thinking, Babcock does not like to lose and will push these guys this year as much as he can to get as many wins as possible, which I'm VERY in between about. I strongly believe that we need to draft another top D man and I'm not sure we'll be in the bottom 5 and I really think we need to be.
I'm just thinking out loud here and I want to see what others think, do you guys believe we have enough of a core to eventually win a cup? Or, like how I'm thinking, do you believe we need to add another top prospect?
I'm just saying all this because Babcock hates to lose and if he can get us out of the bottom 5, he most definitely will. With Babcock's coaching he'll push these guys to do well, but with the guys we have, what's our ceiling?
Just opening this up for discussion.
1.) 16 Oct 2016 17:20:16
I fully understand what you're saying. In a perfect world Babcock would have showed up after this year, so the Leafs with whatever coach could have another low pick in the draft and draft a solid defenseman. Babcock is an amazing coach, he will push his players to their maximum potential, and with that comes some results. If they push themselves to their absolute max, I see a wildcard place for the playoffs and a first round exit. Detroit did that over and over for a few years with Babcock, as he would get the best out of his players to play well, but they simply didn't have the skill to overpower other teams. I'm scared that'll happen with the Leafs. They'll continue to reach a low spot in the playoffs, but don't have the firepower to push them much farther. As for the core like you mentioned, we have a solid core - no question - with Matthews, Marner, Nylander, and Rielly, the team does show some upside in the future. But I have to agree in how I believe too that they should add another D prospect. The leafs have solid forward prospects, but like you said I don't think they have enough solid D men to be strong enough. I see the leafs finishing about 8-10th last this year, and I hope with that comes a good D prospect that can benefit these leafs. I guess we won't know until we see, but just hoping for the best! Love my leafs.
Solid post ggraham!
22 Aug 2016 08:12:56
JVR seems to keep coming up in 8/ 10 trades on this site, which I don't entirely agree with. I understand his trade value is high and we can get a fair bit for him but it seems no one is understanding what his value on the leafs will be like in a few years. I truly don't believe any team in the nhl will win with solely only kids. In 4-5 years, when I believe the leafs will be a contender, the leafs will need a leader and an older player who is experienced. JVR will only be 31-32 years old which is still a good age and not too old yet and he is a very talented plater. He'll most likely still be on the first line and he'll be providing everything he can for this team.
Rather than trade him for potential prospects from other teams I believe the leafs should wait out another year, grab another top 5 players from the draft, then go from there. If JVR stays on the leafs (as well as Matthews, Nylander, and Marner), the leafs will be deadly in a few years.
Just my opinion, but I believe it's best.
1.) 22 Aug 2016 11:15:25
I agree with you that JVR is a player that the leafs should hang on to but on two years as a free agent he may be too expensive and want too long a term. If the draft choices develop as Tor hopes, they will have a lot of young players lining up for big $ in 2, 3 and 4 years. Loyalty and mentorship in this NHL takes a back seat to $. Consistently good teams know when to get rid of an asset at the right time.
2.) 22 Aug 2016 12:11:22
Keeping JVR and having a good possibility of 2 more 30 goal scorers will give the Leafs a shot at 3rd place in the Atlantic
21 Mar 2016 20:46:33
I have a question more than a post. With the leafs burning the first year off of Nylanders entry level contract, does this mean he will be out of the running for the calder next year?
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03 Jul 2018 09:20:44
I honestly think both trades are on the right track (and are close to making sense) . Min wouldn't want both Gardiner and Carrick, so I'd think instead of Carrick they'd have to throw a FW prospect, maybe Bracco for example. Then also if you're giving those 2 guys just for Dumba, all I think you'd need is a 3rd and 2nd at most, 1st seems strong.
Second trade makes sense in a lot of ways. The only thing I would change is if the Leafs are doing a 1st then COL would have to throw in a 4th or 5th with Barrie.
03 Jul 2018 09:13:38
2nd trade is bringing back memories from the first time I watched 'Annabelle: Creation' so I'll just imagine I never saw that.
As for your first trade; I still don't understand how some people don't see what Kadri brings to this team. The guy has proved to be an extremely capable shut down centre that can also throw up 30 goals a season. Yea he has a couple moments like he did in Game 1 against the Bruins where emotions get in the way, but then again that's the first time you've seen something like that out of him in a long time. Faulk would be awesome to have, but I don't want to see Kadri go.
27 Feb 2017 06:10:30
JVR is tied for 3rd for points on the leafs, and his point totals doesn't describe his physical play that he brings with most shifts. He was drafted 2nd overall for a reason and you're trading him away for spare parts, terrible trade proposal.
27 Feb 2017 06:07:25
No from Tampa. Trading 4 small pieces of basically nothing doesn't mean you will get 1 decent player. Boyle would be awesome for the leafs, but this isn't the trade that would make it happen.
27 Feb 2017 06:00:28
I for sure can believe this trade. Timashov shows a lot of potential, but with the top 9 the leafs have (plus Kapanen who will join by next year) I don't see him making the line up. He continues to show he has was it takes to eventually be in the show one day, so he could be seen as a valuable asset to many teams. Leo would join the Blues squad immediately and I guess maybe Polak may be able to squeeze in too (don't know enough about the 2nd and 3rd pairings on St. Louis to give an honest answer, but from what I know it seems ok) . Giving up a 2nd isn't heartbreaking as the Leafs would most likely select a D anyway with this pick, solidifying a D man place with Shattenkirk would take the worry of losing that pick away.
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03 Jul 2018 09:04:03
Besides the fact that these both favour the leafs - than you MorotnoLaple. ^^ - neither trade really helps toronto's needs anyway. The leafs forwards are absolutely stacked now with the JT signing and have EASILY top 3 best front 9 in the NHL. Sure adding Forsberg would be unbelievable, but it makes 0 sense whatsoever! Beyond the fact we wouldn't be able to pay for his contract, if we're giving away those young prospects ( + gardiner and McElenny), we're trading for a D man! ZERO sense in trying to bolster the offence when it's already elite and then the D is lacking.
15 Jan 2017 05:54:14
Leafs are hoping for that and everything is pushing to a yes for that (#1 D). For example, think about the World Cup this past summer with the NA team - with a team based on the best U23 he was on the top D pairing with Ekblad and with McLellan as a coach. Although he hasn't been putting in too many points recently, he's been doing the little things which matter most. I could never imagine the Leafs letting go of Rielly and I can believe Lou thinks the same.
Hope that clears it up for you. #GoLeafsGo