11 Sep 2017 17:37:11
I think our only option for a dman at this point is

Deadline deal/ midseason

Toronto
Jvr
3rd 2019 conditional if JVR doesn't resign

For

Florida
J. Demers

Fill the hole with kapanen bracco or leivo

Kapanen bozak marner.

1.) 11 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 18:12:21
No way from leafs. If the best D you can get for JVR is an overpaid bottom pair Guy with 3+years left, then you just keep the 30 goal winger with experience for a playoff run. Trading JVR for demers makes you worse today and far worse in the future. Can you imagine when this expected cap crunch comes with marner, nylander and Matthews comes and the problem with not keeping all 3 is a 6th Dman?!?

2.) 11 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 19:46:22
Have to agree but I'm starting to think it's the only dman the leafs can get for jvr. If I had my way, leafs would trade him at the deadline in a package to get a prospect and a 1st round pick. Forget a cup run. The leafs will not make the finals this year. Conference or cup finals that is. Their defense isn't even close to good enough. And if all east teams stay healthy. They will be battling till the end just to get in.

3.) 11 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 20:13:35
4.5 million4 years did u ever think leafs just trade Jvr for first near deadline plus they can get more maybe and even more if they retain money . Some team is going to have problems this season I say Washington and Ottawa Carolina might bite also.

4.) 11 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 20:50:24
@davidmackin i did think of that. That's why i said I agreed and would prefer a 1st if I had my way in the reply lol. did you not think to read on? As for the trade I said in the beginning that I think he's the only dman that would be available for jvr because most people seem to think that you're going to get lindholm or even Carlson straight up. dkm. Just trying to get people to be realistic. At no point did I say I would do it. I'm simply tryi g to point out that I think it's all that was available for JVR this season. People on this site need to pay attention and not jump the gun.

5.) 12 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 22:03:11
MatthewsC

Your better off with picks for Jvr Bozak and komarov. Leafs drafting position is al wys gong to b late first round now so just keep getting picks. New young cheap players have to keep coming in the most leafs want to pay a dman is what' Reilly is earning. You can see leafs pay structure when u look what each player earns.

6.) 12 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 22:26:32
I'm in agreement with Unbiased Jim, Davidmackin and MatthewsC. All valid points. I would definitely avoid making this deal. The Leafs are better off keeping JVR if that's all they will get in a trade. But let's see how the year unfolds and what happens with other teams. You never know how quickly some players can fall out of favour on a given team.

7.) 12 Sep 2017
11 Sep 2017 22:32:41
Pens D this year was really bare looking too. Leafs have a ton of fire power. I wouldn't count them out of winning a cpl rounds this year. Not saying it's going to happen, but penguins won the cup with a weak D core by playoff team standards, and preds went to the finals having the worst regular season record of all 16 playoff teams. It's a different animal and anything can happen. If leafs are in a playoff hunt, I'd rather JVR than Demers or a late first because the only teams going to trade for him will be a top team.