09 Jun 2017 18:19:39
Ana: Bieksa, Manson
Tor: Rychel, Lindberg, 2018 4th round pick.

Bieksa will be given a choice; be bought out or waive his NMC. It's in his interest to waive it.

Anaheim loses the Bieksa contract and gains a spot to protect a young forward/defender and gets a nice package for Manson.

Toronto gets a great RH shot suppressing defender who would slot nicely next to Gardiner or Rielly, Bieksa either plays it out (bottom pair) and plays for his next contract or he goes to Robidas Island and collects. Leafs lose forward prospects but gain a good young defender.

Hope it works. Would love if they sign Jumbo Joe as our extra centre too. We only have two more years of cap space; might as well use it now.

1.) 09 Jun 2017
09 Jun 2017 19:48:52
Manson might be the 4th defender on a deep and talented defense but he's worth more than rychel and Lindberg. Sorry.

2.) 10 Jun 2017
09 Jun 2017 21:15:45
You have to remember the Leafs are taking Bieksa off their hands in this deal, that has immense value for the Ducks.

3.) 10 Jun 2017
10 Jun 2017 00:14:51
Write the deal like this:

Manson = Rychel, Lindberg, 2018 4th, -Bieksa (cap dump/ favour)

Looks pretty balanced to me.

4.) 10 Jun 2017
10 Jun 2017 02:33:06
Also note. A buyout does not help the Ducks cap situation, being 35+ his salary still counts against the cap. $4M for a # 6/ 7 D-man is a pretty hefty price to pay. For the Leafs the up side is he can play LD or RD from the #7 slot and he still hits a ton (37th in the league last year) . An upgrade on Polak. Manson is a good fit with Rielly and moves Carrick to the 3rd pair to develop in protected minutes. Ducks get to keep their top 5 D-men.
Good trade and more even then it seems. Helps both teams. One change; take out the 2018 4th and add Marchenko. Ducks need him to satisfy Ex Draft requirements.

5.) 10 Jun 2017
10 Jun 2017 03:23:12
Ducks have better options than what you are offering. They could offer up Vatanen to ease their cap, get a better return and then protect Manson. I would also venture to say that they will offer LV a higher draft pick to select a certain player if they can't swing a decent trade for one of their D-men.

6.) 10 Jun 2017
10 Jun 2017 12:06:23
spider:

Good point on the exposure requirement; that's another favour. The problem is that the Leafs might have to protect Bieksa. Unless he waives it for the Leafs as well, allowing them to protect Manson, leaving Carrick for Vegas.

AM34:
1) The Ducks have to move Bieksa, they can't afford to buy him out; they have no room cap wise. The best scenario for the ducks cap wise is a similar deal where they move Vatanen and Bieksa.

2) Deals with Vegas are not going to be cheap, they are going to be expensive. Vegas is not there to do the Ducks a favour, they have the Ducks in a blind :-) . The cost will be expensive and it would have to be more than what Manson or Vatanen would be worth and that's more than a 1st. Vegas calls the "shot" :-) .

3) As for GM's moving Dmen. There are only 4 teams that have space for a Dman. The rest have to expose a good Dman to take one they think will be better. Best of luck there.

4) Vegas gets to take up to 13 Dmen. 3 goalies, and the 14 forwards. Why take the maximum number of Dmen? Because they are the best commodity for trading Jan 1st 2018! They will get Vegas the best return. In other words they don't need to deal now; when they can hold a high end auction later.

Don't assume they will be nice about it and help other teams out. They need to maximize their take in this talent heist.

Carolina, NJ, and Toronto have the cap space and the opening to make the trade.

7.) 12 Jun 2017
12 Jun 2017 07:24:29
rather send brown straight up.