13 Sep 2019 10:31:34
Based on the rumours out there Marner has turned down $11m a year from his hometown team. Now I am no expert but if his hometown team with his friends on it cannot convince him to take that much - which is an overpay - how much would another team have to pay for his services. Why would any team in the league want to deal with that and why would the Leafs want to trade him when they would have to take salary back. I believe this will either end in the next couple of weeks or he will sit this year out - remember Nylander and his escallating salary every day he did not sign (I think it was over $10m when he signed). The leafs could never afford that to happen so its going to end in before Oct 2 or he sits.

1.) 13 Sep 2019
13 Sep 2019 14:59:44
Four years is the worst possible time period Leafs could sign. It takes Marner right up to UFA, but not beyond. With no option for a fifth year, Leafs either lose him for nothing, or are faced with overpaying to keep him.

If Marner wants to play the same game as Panarin, he needs to remember that Panarin was playing KHL for many years before coming to NHL. Panarin was, has been, and still is, in control of his own fate since come to North America as an overage undrafted signing for Chicago. Marner was drafted and is still very much a secured asset for MLSE.

As mentioned above, Marner’s salary in terms of cap hit this season increases every day after season starts. The longer he sits out, the more his salary counts against the cap this year. Once we hit cap max (I believe we are at, or very near, that point now actually), the only way we can afford Marner, if he continues to hold out is to drop players. For every $700,000 his salary this year increases against the cap over the limit, we lose a depth roster player. This is the complete opposite of being a team player. This is greed and selfish. Plain and simple.

Marner is going to push out teammates, guys that are good players, who could really help the team as the season progresses while injuries and other problems arise. We need these guys for the playoffs. They might not be stars, but they are good nhl quality players. And some of them did, in fact, take a small pay cut themselves just to come play here. It might have only been $100,000 or so, just to the point they were basically league minimum, or slightly above, so in absolute terms, it is insignificant. But relatively compared to the players salary, this is a pretty large percentage this guy is taking. You don’t hear about this in the press because they aren’t stars, and a $50,000 saving is a drop in the bucket compared to the overall money this HUGE business is operating on.

These guys are the real unsung heroes. Not greedy self-entitled superstars who feel they deserve more than the entire bottom six half of the team combined. We’re talking half the team here. Does he want to win or not? Winning should be about everything to these guys. Does a million extra bucks really make a difference in Marner’s lifestyle? Probably not. But that would go a long way to securing a guy like Rasanen, and help make sure he will kick the crap out of anyone who dares touch him. But if Rasanen misses his shot to make the team because Leafs can’t afford him, then he either might not be present to step up for Marner, or he is going to remember how Marner delayed and almost ruined his shot to make the team. He may not be so eager to chance getting his nose broken just so Marner can make another million.

Any time a player holds out, especially when it is a superstar like Marner, it sickens me. Nobody wins, and the biggest loser, as always, is the fans. As we saw with Nylander’s holdout last year, in most cases when a player holds out, there is no benefit to the player. None. I’m talking money here. There may be other benefits or clauses that a player may be seeking that could cause him to holdout (NMC for example) . But financially, in the majority of cases, holding out does not greatly benefit the player above what signing the original offer would.

Obviously, I’m taking the author (s) words on these things. I’ve never actually gathered the data and crunched the numbers on this stuff. I’m just regurgitating what I’ve read somewhere along the way. I assume these articles are all peer reviewed, and any mistakes would be immediately picked up by readership, other competing authors or websites, or some crank with nothing better to do on his lunch break.

It’s a fact. I ran the numbers last year and posted them on the site here for everyone to see, and after Nylander’s holdout last year he made an extra $300,000. That’s it. He gained a measly $300,00 and lost all those points and games played, wrecked his entire season, almost derailed the team’s chemistry with his return, and nearly lost his spot beside Matthews to Kapanen. If Kapanen learned to pass he might have been Matthews winger all year last season, and given the opportunity to start beside him this season again, with Nylander beside Tavares. Kapanen also lost a fair amount of salary by shooting so much more rather than using his speed to create laneways to get a pass to Matthews to make the shot.

2.) 13 Sep 2019
13 Sep 2019 15:29:41
excellent read and well put.

3.) 13 Sep 2019
13 Sep 2019 15:33:39
Then we should trade Marner to Colorado:

In return Kadri.1st and a 4th round pick

Haha, I just want him to sit the whole year. he is probably stating he wants to be captain, I don't think its the money anymore. WOW can't believe the crap anymore.

4.) 13 Sep 2019
13 Sep 2019 17:55:51
Highest paid player in endorsement deals is coming to an end lol.

5.) 14 Sep 2019
13 Sep 2019 23:53:51
Leafs gm you lost me at “four years is the worst. ”.

6.) 14 Sep 2019
14 Sep 2019 09:02:42
It doesn’t take much does it mph? Lol.