16 Apr 2018 15:50:48
Leafs need to add some real size

Sign Kane $6M for 6 years

Trade Rielly, Nylander and 1st for Tkachuk, Hamilton

Trade Zaitsev, Brown for Larsson and Lucic (Edmonton retains 1.5)

Tkachuk/ Matthews/ Hyman
Kane/ Kadri/ Marner
Lucic/ Marleau/ Kapanen
Johnsson/ Aaltonen/ Grundstrom

Gardiner/ Hamilton
Dermott/ Larsson
Holl/ Hainsey
*Liljegren

Now that’s a team with some real skill and size.


1.) 16 Apr 2018
16 Apr 2018 17:17:08
LeafsGM

Your point is well received if Leafs zero in on players they want they can pay a premium. I would do everything to hold onto Reilly I would extend Gardiner and include him or I would add zaitsev instead and add Brown.

Leafs trade Nylander Brown. Zaitsev first 2018

Calgary Hamilton Tkachuk

The Edmonton thing is easier as Oilers need to find a taker for Lucia . His contract just can't be hidden anymore

Oilers trade Lucic Larson retain 1 million

Leafs trade JVR signed 8 years leafs solve him for Edmonton Gardiner NEILSEN 2 nd 2018 Hyman


2.) 16 Apr 2018
16 Apr 2018 16:52:56
I like what your thinking, but I would trade Gardiner and keep Reilly. Swap out Reilly and Gardiner and I think the Leafs finally have a true contender.
I would also put Marleau on the wing. Sam Bennett as the third line center or even Bozak between Tkachuk and Kapanen or between Marleau and Kapanen would be a great third line.
This would make the Leafs fast, skilled and miserable to play against. Larsson can be a real pain to play against.


3.) 16 Apr 2018
16 Apr 2018 17:32:21
That's a huge price leafs are paying for

Hamilton and Tkachuk

Nylander zaitsev 2018 first and brown

If fact it may very well be too much but Calgary absolutely make the trade . Leafs change their dynamic totally and are further ahead

Ok Leafs Gm do leafs make major bounce back tonight.

I say Nylander Marner and Matthews have huge game Anderson is solid Leafs 5 Boston 2.


4.) 16 Apr 2018
16 Apr 2018 17:42:32
This seems like sarcasm. but if its isnt, wow.

I don't want anything to do with Kane or bloated contract Lucic.

And that Rielly trade is blowing up our team way too much.


5.) 16 Apr 2018
16 Apr 2018 18:56:27
LeafsGM would propably agree Reilly stays topshelfslappets and in his trade he isn't blowing anything up. He realizes now is time to fine tune the ship and get the right mix in here leafs are too soft.

Leafs gm sorry for speaking in your behalf I'm just trying to reinforce where your coming from.


6.) 16 Apr 2018
16 Apr 2018 20:50:25
@David

I kinda believe it is. that's four pieces of the rebuild (Brown, Rielly, Nylander, Zaitsev) and a 1st that are gone. Now, do I think that every one of Nylander, Rielly, Gardiner, Carrick, Zaitsev, Brown, Grundstrom, Hyman and Marner are going to be Leafs for life? Of course not. But to give up on three of them after their second year, and Rielly just as he is turning into a stud on defence seems abrupt, rash and flat out rushed for no reason.

I am for one not under the impression that we are 'rebuilding'. However, you see many other championship teams, they build their team up and don't just trade for pieces asap. That's what ruined the Leafs before, and I sure don't want it to happen again. Trading for guys like Stempniak, or Raycroft, or this guy or that guy, signing guys like Komiserak or Finger, or Robidas or Clarkson, drafting guys like Biggs, or Percy, or Schenn. It was all stemmed from this idea to 'get better and stronger as soon as possible', and it never works.

maybe this management could pull it off better than ferguson, or burke, or nonis. but i'd rather play it safe than risk another 5-10 years of being mediocre.


7.) 16 Apr 2018
16 Apr 2018 21:33:45
This is honestly just asking for trouble.


8.) 17 Apr 2018
17 Apr 2018 09:36:13
You got to give to get. I’m with Keon. Keep Gardiner and trade Rielly. You got to think Dermott has proven himself enough to make one of either Rielly or Gardiner expendable. i'm in the Gardiner camp.

Tkachuk has proven himself to look just as good as Nylander, maybe with a better shot, and Hamilton is a monster that would be our1RHD.

Larsson is improvement over Zaitsev.
Kane is improvement over JVR.
Brown is replaced by Kapanen and Johnsson.
Lucic adds size.

It’s not exactly blowing the team up when Gardiner has been around just as long as Rielly. It’s one or the other there from the looks of it, and Brown is third line depth player, and Zaitsev isn’t exactly a hero.


9.) 17 Apr 2018
17 Apr 2018 16:01:35
LeafsGM
You know whatever your cooking I'm buying in on it. I'm trying to get my head around your trading Reilly ahead of Gardiner. I'm even making assumption that Gardiner resigns with leafs to a good contract on both sides. How do you let Reilly go b4 Gardiner and Zaitsev?


10.) 17 Apr 2018
17 Apr 2018 22:04:48
I agree with LeafsGM. These trades are not "blowing up" the Shanaplan. They are adding valuable pieces to the team, while still maintaining its identity.
I keep Reilly because he is 4 years younger than Gardiner and I don't believe has reached his full potential yet. I also keep Dermott and Hainsey off their current roster. Hamilton and Larsson would be huge upgrades.
Upfront I keep Matthews, Marner, Hyman, Kadri, Kapanen, Johnsson and Marleau.
This keeps the core intact with some veteran leadership.
Adding players like Kane (27), Tkachuk (23), Bennett (22), Hamilton (25) will continue the build with great young players. Some cheap veterans that can still contribute and will come cheap Maroon (30) and Simmonds (30).


11.) 17 Apr 2018
17 Apr 2018 15:09:09
The Leafs may be able to pry Nurse and Larsson out of Edmonton if they take Lucic contract. Give Lucic some time to see if he can rebound from a bad year. If he doesn't, put him on waivers or give him a seat beside Lupul.
Calgary does not have a 1st in this years draft, so both Alberta teams will be willing to deal.