16 Aug 2022 04:46:34
I posted a similar but incomplete trade recently.

To Islanders:
Nylander (26), RW, two years left on his $6.9 contract, 34 goals, 80 points
Sandin (22) coming off ELC, contract TBD, protectable 4 - 5 defenseman
Robertson (20), LW, one year left on ELC

To Leafs:
Wahlstrom (22), RW, $0.894, last year of ELC
Beauvillier (25), LW, $4.15
Mayfield (29 - 30 in Oct.) RHD, $1.45, last year of contract

Islanders receive an elite, 1st line, RW to replace Wahlstrom (RW) and line up with Matthew Barzal.
Islanders also have William Dufour (RW Team Canada) in the pipeline) to replace Wahlstrom.
Saves them from making the mistake of signing a 32 year old Kadri to a 6 or 7 year contract for $7 - $8 million a year.
In Robertson, Isles receive a young, projected second line LW , on an ELC to replace Beauvillier
Sandin (22) fits into Islanders defense perfectly.
Noah Dobson (22), Alex Romanov (22), Sandin (22) Pelych (27), Pullock (27) solidifying their defense for years to come.

Leafs get Wahlstrom and Beauvillier to form a second line of:
Beauvillier - Tavares - Wahlstrom
Leafs also receive a RHD in Mayfield to complete a 3rd pairing with Muzzin.
Leafs defense:
Reilly - Brodie
Giordano - Liljegren
Muzzin - Mayfield.

The needs of both teams are met

1.) 16 Aug 2022
16 Aug 2022 05:31:22
As an addendum to my above proposed trade:
I recognize that Lou would be very reluctant to negotiate with Toronto after they spurned him, 5 years ago, in favor of Leafs current dubious iteration of GM.
Lou Lamorillo would HAVE to feel he had won the trade before consummating any deal with the Leafs.
The general consensus is, that the team who gets the best player in a trade, wins the trade.
Nylander is easily the best player which might allow Lou to go home happy to have punished his former persecutors.

2.) 16 Aug 2022
16 Aug 2022 10:58:06
So yet again Nylander is the best player in a trade . Lou would do this trade because he would this by a country mile.

3.) 16 Aug 2022
16 Aug 2022 12:48:09
For a guy that calls Nylander "elite" and questions the value of young players that haven't done alot yet like Wahlstrom, this is the type of trade that you would be the first to say that is really bad for the Leafs and Nylander alone should get this return, nevermind adding Sandin and Robertson.

4.) 18 Aug 2022
18 Aug 2022 02:52:12
RLF
That Nylander’s skills are elite can not be questioned.
As an overall package he leaves something to be desired.
Mayfield would be a perfect fit on the right side of Leafs 3rd pairing.
Beauvillier would fit well on Leafs 2nd line on the left wing.
Wahlstrom like most 22 year old players has yet to come into his own but has substantial upside and at 22 has the potential to be a perfect, 2nd line right wing behind Marner.
Like Tavares, Wahlstrom plays more of a north - south game than Nylander.
After playing Barry Trotz defense first game, playing on Leafs second line, with John Tavares, on an offensively minded team would be a breath of fresh air for Wahlstrom and Beauvillier likely bringing out the best in both of them.

“You would be the first to say this is really bad for the Leafs”
Really?
Then why did I suggest it?
You’re not making sense?
Nylander alone does not get you 2 - second line wingers and a good, defensive, 3rd pairing defenseman.
A trade must work for both teams, something most fans on this site fail to recognize as witnessed by the suggestions.
This trade provides for the needs of both teams while allowing Leafs the opportunity to trade Kerfoot without leaving a whole in the lineup, clearing ($3.5 million) off the Leafs cap.

5.) 18 Aug 2022
18 Aug 2022 13:32:33
@WB.
I think I made perfect sense. What are you missing?

You have called Nylander "an elite first line winger". That is different than saying he has elite skills but lacking in other areas. I have said the latter many times, but never the former.

As for the trade. You have often criticized others for offering up Nylander for players similar in age, pedigree and skill to Wahlstrom that have not "come into their own" yet with similar plusses like you have coming back to the Leafs. Now you are saying "like most 22 year olds" when it is your proposal. Normally you say "for a guy who has done nothing at the pro level". He is a guy who puts up points on the PP, but not much 5 on 5. Beauvillier is now 25 and never broken 40 pts. He only had 23 even strength points last season. Only one season of at least 30 EV points. Hardly a 2nd line winger by point standards. Wouldn't just keeping Kerfoot as 2LW who had 53 pts and is cheaper be a better option? Mayfield as a 3RD is an excellent option imo.

This is the same kind of return that others have put up for Nylander that you have come back saying things along the lines of, "A 34 goal, 80 pt elite first line winger for a 3rd pair D, a 2nd/ 3rd line winger and a young guy that has done nothing at the pro level yet! No way! " Even though others deal may also include cap savings which yours doesn't.

Though, when you throw out the deal and even add Sandin who you call a 4/ 5 D-man (better upside than Mayfield) and Robertson, one of the Leafs better prospects, it all makes sense and not the same that you have criticized?

"Nylander alone does not get you 2 - second line wingers and a good, defensive, 3rd pairing defenseman. " Although I agree, how are Wahlstrom and Beau 2nd line wingers at this point? By your own standards you have stated may times, they are not.

"A trade must work for both teams, something most fans on this site fail to recognize as witnessed by the suggestions. " It's one thing to think you are better than most on here, it is another to say it.

I stand by my statement that your proposal is the same kind of proposal created by others that you have heavily criticized. I can't be bothered looking them up, which you would argue are not similar anyway. You obviously don't have to agree with the statement, but you aren't really getting any support from anyone on your deal or explanation of why it is fair either. Maybe because it is a poor deal, or maybe because as you say, most fans on this site fail to recognize a good and fair trade that benefits both teams.