25 May 2020 02:46:30
Leafs trade Marner, Kapanen
Jets trade Connor, Laine

I know, it's a downgrade, but hear me out.

Kapanen is a better overall player than Laine. Laine is a one dimensional one trick pony that is useless 5-on-5. Other than power play, Laine is a detriment to his team. Kapanen is a more complete 200 foot player that Jets fans would absolutely swoon over his speed and shot and ability to help his teammates out and actually engage in physical play, something Laine tends to cower from. But we could use Laine's power play skills to either make our top power play even more deadly, or to make our second power play just as effective as the first, giving us two equally dangerous options.

Marner for Connor. I do like Connors goal scoring. But Marner is obviously the superior player. No doubt about it. His ability to set up guys like Wheeler and Ehlers would instantly give both those guys extra credibility. He would likely lead Winnipeg in points, possibly being their first 100 point player since, I think Selanne, in the 1990's.

Aside from a few extra goals from Connor and Laine, Leafs save cap too, which is actually the main motivation to make this trade. No doubt it's a pretty large downgrade, as Leafs give up the two best players, but we do save some cap space, and distribute the cap a bit more evenly as well.

1.) 25 May 2020
25 May 2020 15:21:29
LeafsGM Have you seen Laine play this season? Laine has developed into a true two way player. Connor does everything Marner does for $4 mil less. Kappenen is a solid 3rd line player that is not worth much since the Leafs need to trade him to open up cap space. There is no chance the Jets do this fantasy trade.

2.) 25 May 2020
25 May 2020 15:57:25
Laine. a 2 way player? Lol.

3.) 25 May 2020
25 May 2020 17:12:48
Oh come on. There's a reason why Laine and Connor make so much less than Marner. It's be size they aren't as good as players. Simple as that. Marner is a better player. End of story. And he would easily be the best player on Winnipeg.

4.) 25 May 2020
25 May 2020 17:13:08
It's obvious LeafsGM doesn't watch hockey. His terrible "hot takes" are what have made him the laughing stock on this site. No wonder no one takes anything he says seriously.

5.) 25 May 2020
25 May 2020 17:53:16
LeafGM is a blind Toronto poster that can't believe everyone doesn't think that all the Leaf players are the best in the league at their positions. lol.

6.) 25 May 2020
25 May 2020 17:53:56
LGM,

Unlike the person known as Memarc. who seems to get his kicks out of trolling.
I look at this offer as a step down for the Leafs, but an enhancement for Tavares
Hyman Matthews Nylander
Connor Tavares Laine
Robertson Kerfoot Mikheyev
Engvall Spezza Barbanov
$53 MM
Anderson + Dermott + Johnsson to be traded for a RHD + Goaltender- less expensive.

7.) 25 May 2020
25 May 2020 18:24:29
I don't think LGM has ever been the laughing stock. I may not always agree with everything he has to say but he makes many valid points. Saying Laine is a 2 way player is an absolute joke. He is a pure goal scorer that even fails at that consistently thanks in large part to a bad attitude.

8.) 25 May 2020
25 May 2020 18:29:15
That is true Islandjet. If you post on the Leafs' page here and don't agree that every Leaf and every Marlie is a generational player, it is because you are a "biased Leaf hater". I mean even Bracco is a guaranteed first line winger on every NHL team except the Leafs. Lol

All the trade posts on this page are trolls of other teams and always massively overvalue the Leaf players.

There is no way the Jets would take a massive downgrade in quality and take on one of the worst contracts in hockey as proposed here by LeafsGM without any compensation. No team would.

I know LeafsGM says that this site isn't about being realistic, but it is very hard to be as absolutely Leafs brainwashed as the posters here are. You can't have a rational discussion with these guys.

9.) 25 May 2020
25 May 2020 18:53:28
Belittling people must be your specialty. Challenging people personally shows a great deal of immaturity.

Always interested in a hockey perspective.

10.) 25 May 2020
25 May 2020 19:44:59
I would say Connor would be the player I’d want Laine is a good player he just struggles to find consistency.

11.) 25 May 2020
25 May 2020 19:46:17
Realistically kapanen isn’t a better player than laine, but marner is likely a significant step better than Connor. The trade itself is probably not that far off, I might see the leafs adding something. However watching my fair share of jets games, the take that Laine has developed into a 2 way player might be the funniest thing I have ever seen posted. Realistically Laine is quite comparable to ovechkin when he first came into the league, but probably a little bit worse defensively and a decent bit worse offensively. He is essentially a poor mans ovechkin. There is still hope he eventually realizes there are 2 ends to the rink, but he appears a long way off from that right now.

12.) 25 May 2020
25 May 2020 21:44:47
When did anyone ever state Bracco is a top line winger? Lol.

13.) 25 May 2020
25 May 2020 21:50:15
It's not trying to belittle anyone Heatdreamer, it's just when you read some of the absolutely ridiculous hot takes here. Like thinking that the difference between Marner and Laine is the difference between Connor and Kapanen.

Even if you want to believe Marner is a better player than Laine, Marner's disaster of a contract knocks away a lot of that supposed extra value. Then you throw in Kapanen, who is in no way, in anyone's estimation, close to Marner, Laine and Connor on talent or skill and it gets even more ridiculous.

So, if you are trying to be fair you should be calling out LeafsGM for trying to pass off such a lopsided trade in favor of the Leafs as good value for both teams. But I don't see any leaf fans here saying how ridiculously lopsided the trade is, I just hear complaining that Jet fans are pointing out how horrifically biased and lopsided the trade is.

14.) 26 May 2020
25 May 2020 23:07:50
Top 2 Lines after this trade
Hyman Matthews nylander
Connor Tavares Laine

Leafs save some dough
Enough to sign pietrangelo?

Good post leafsgm
Trade is fair despite what wet island and mememejoe
Say. which usually equates to very little.

15.) 26 May 2020
25 May 2020 23:39:08
Jets fans are severely over valueing Laine. He is a train wreck in his own end. He is very inconsistent. Jets fans overvalue their own guys worse than anyone from what I can see.

16.) 26 May 2020
26 May 2020 12:49:59
To be fair Laine is the best pure goal scorer in this proposal Marner the best playmaker. Defensively Marner is better than Laine. Can Laine develop into a better 200 ft player imho i think so. Conner is better than Kappy in all areas so the leafs to obtain just those two would have to add Liligren might do it but i think Dermott would be the ask. I doubt the leafs want to part with three roster players without getting a rhd in return. Interesting proposal none the less.

17.) 26 May 2020
26 May 2020 13:56:11
This trade is so pro Leaf that any true hockey fan can see it. Many of the Leaf posters here never see the Jets play more than 5 times a season so they can't see what fans who watch 70 plus games see about what Connor and Laine bring to the Jets. Plus they listen to their own Leaf bias talk shows that insist their players are all A+ quality and worth much more than they really are. The Leafs over pay to keep their players and try to dump them on other teams in trades that heavily favor the Leafs to try to get cap relief.

18.) 26 May 2020
26 May 2020 15:00:11
Islandjet, you can say leafs fans on here are biased about leafs players, but you also have to be willing to admit you are extremely biased about jets players. Is this trade fair, likely not. The leafs have the best and worst player in this deal. Marner being the best, the happiest between him and Connor is smaller than the gap between Laine and Kapanen so that is not balanced. However, to say things like Laine is a great 2 way player and Pionk is a number 1 d man are just ridiculous pro jets takes. If we all want to be realistic here, Laine is a poor defensive player, which could eventually change. Pionk is at this point a good number 4 d man who has some offensive upside, but has a lot of work to do in his own end. So before you take shots at the leafs fans for being bias take a look at getting rid of your own biases.

19.) 26 May 2020
26 May 2020 17:06:15
Again Though Matt, it goes both ways. Just the fact that some Leaf fans here are trying to justify this as a fair trade truly let's you know how biased towards anything Leafs they are.

20.) 26 May 2020
26 May 2020 17:45:37
Lol Memarcus, that literally exactly what I said is that you guys both need to be willing to admit of jets biased you are if you are willing to point out how leafs biased other people are. I agreed that some are leafs bias, but can’t believe some of the bias that you two show in order to try and shame other people for being bias. It makes no sense at all.