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07 Feb 2020 15:04:09
To Sabres: AJ
To Leafs: Miller
Money in/Money Out (close enough)
Miller has term, solves RHD spot for Leafs and adds some toughness.
Sabres have holes next year with a ton of FA forwards.
Still allows Leafs to make another move at deadline.
1.) 07 Feb 2020 16:15:11
No thank you. Miller has not been great on the defensive side of things.
2.) 07 Feb 2020 18:57:59
I'm not saying Miller is the # 1 RHD, but he would fill a 2nd or 3rd line RHD spot which the Leafs are very thin at. Next year, we have Holl. that's it. I see this like move # 1, but the Leafs still go out and find that # 1 RHD in the summer.
3.) 07 Feb 2020 19:11:45
I agree with Tbuds, doesn’t really upgrade our def.
20 Feb 2017 21:37:25
To Ducks
Nylander, 2nd Rd pick 2017
To Leafs
Montour, 1st Rd pick 2017
Tough to give up Nylander, but the Leafs need for a top 4 RHD becomes priority. This is more of a 'hockey trade' that would fit into Ducks plans (ELC for ELC). JVR would not have enough value for Ducks, IMO.
Montour has all the tools to become a top 4 RHD and young enough to grow with this core group for many years.
Upgrading the 2nd to a 1st allows the Leafs to draft another high end D-prospect for the future.
Leafs then add 1 more D-man in free agency and their top 6 suddenly becomes legit.
Reilly Shattenkirk
Gardiner Montour
Neilson Zaitsev
1.) 20 Feb 2017 21:59:42
MONTOUR has proven nothing as for NYLANDER he's proved to be a scoring winger.
2.) 20 Feb 2017 22:15:24
No We are not trading Nylander for an unproven Defenseman.
3.) 20 Feb 2017 22:28:57
Nylander will replace Bozak at centre next season so I doubt he going anywhere.
4.) 21 Feb 2017 00:45:01
Not really liking it. Rather go with;
Leafs: Neilson, 2nd
Jets: Laine
Neilson is young and has all the tools to be a top 4 LHD for the Jets.
Laine would be a nice fit beside Mathews.
Then trade JVR, Polak, Hunwick and Smith to stock up on picks and prospects for post season, pre expansion draft trades with teams in danger of losing top D's.
5.) 21 Feb 2017 01:28:55
Spider
Please explain to me why Jets will trade their franchise player? Would you trade Matthews for that? The only way Laine gets traded if it's for Matthews! Compare a potencial top 4 Neilson to a potencial next OVEKCKIN! Leafs would rob jets with this trade and let them burn to dust? Seriously this would be the worst trade in HISTORY I am actually so pissed that you offered this garbage.
6.) 21 Feb 2017 04:33:07
He was being sarcastic.
7.) 21 Feb 2017 15:45:49
Thanks Shannaplan. Glad someone here can recognize that. My trades are probably biased (I'm a Leafs fan), sometimes off base and occasionally stupid, but never that ridiculous. I try to get as much information about the players, team needs and wants and try to make a logical suggestion. That being said can everyone here quit trading for Stoner unless the Leafs get a huge return. Its like them trading Lupul or Robidais and expecting a top pick or prospect in return.
8.) 21 Feb 2017 15:54:07
The only reason Montour is not in the NHL full time is because of how deep the Ducks are on D. He has all the tools to be a Top 4 D, ask any Ducks fan and he is regarded as one of their top prospects (if not the # 1). It will take a lot to pry him away, and as I much I like what Nylander offers. they have plenty of depth of small very skilled forwards (Marner, Brown, Kapanen, Bracco, etc. ) .
Montour would quickly become their best D prospect, likely crack a top 6 spot on this team right away, and the Leafs upgrade a 2nd Rd pick to another 1st and draft another high end D prospect.
Win-win.
9.) 21 Feb 2017 16:49:31
Spider
My apologies I can't tell if someone's being sarcastic behind technology.
10.) 23 Feb 2017 11:29:13
No prob DD. Just a fun site where Leaf fans can get together and share idea's and fantasies. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
13 Jun 2016 16:46:48
Like all Leafs fans, I dream of Stamkos coming home to the Leafs! As each day goes by, the chances of this seems to increase.
But, I still believe Tampa will resign him. To do this, they need to shed some salary.
This is the basis of my proposal. The value of 'dumping salary'.
Matt Carle's contract of $5.5M for 2 more years is a contract that Tampa needs to shed. How much would Tampa fans value this contract dump, if it meant re-signing their Captain?
This is still a cup-capable team, and Bishop at 29 is their 'guy'.
Proposal:
To Leafs: Vasilevskiy, Carle, 44th OA pick (from Boston)
To Tampa: 30th and 31st OA picks, Hunwick (replaces some of Carle's minutes, and only $1.2M), Cowan (more cap relief after Tampa buys him out), Loov (or another B level prospect of Tampa's choosing)
Leafs get their goalie of the future, and still have 2 second rounds picks. just later in that round.
1.) 13 Jun 2016 17:41:40
or we can let Tampa continue to stay in cap trouble and use those picks to get other needs
2.) 13 Jun 2016 18:26:05
As Mike said:
We don't need to correct all our problems right now. Let them rot in their cap issues; no one has to bail them out. If they have to lose Stamkos or another prime player, that's just too bad.
This draft is deep; next year, maybe not so. Why hand them 30th, 31st, a cheap reliable vet defencemen and Cowen Cap Relief for the 44th??? pick, an old guy D, and a goalie that, if they want to keep Bishop, they will have to shed him in a year anyway.
Let them sweat it out. Low ball them if you think you can make a steal.
3.) 13 Jun 2016 20:27:29
if tampa wants to improve their cap now and forward, bishop is not their guy. they will keep vas and look to move bishop over summer to shed contract of just under 6 million. granted he only has the one year left but this best helps their cap.
4.) 13 Jun 2016 23:05:38
Let them sweat it out. Just like the Pens did with Shanny knowing he had to get rid of Phil. Time to let other teams come and have terms dictated to them (to a certain degree of course).
12 May 2016 14:43:06
Lou needs to swing a deal with Minny for Matt Dumba!
Minny is up against the cap, and have a few RFA's like Dumba that will prove tough to re-sign this year.
Minny is also very short on picks (no 2nd, or 3rd, or 5th, or 6th) and the Leafs have plenty!
I'd suggest something like this:
Pitt's 1st (29th-ish), Wash 2nd, and a B level prospect like Kapanen.
Dumba is a former 7th OA pick, so it will take a lot to get him. but he's also RFA so the Leafs have some risk as well which hopefully makes it more affordable.
1.) 12 May 2016 16:42:15
Great idea but a bit of an overpayment? It does make sense from both perspectives.
2.) 12 May 2016 23:18:08
I like that idea. But does seem like an overpayment, maybe take out the 2nd rd pick and insert Leivo and Percy or something
3.) 12 May 2016 23:53:16
you don't do that deal unless you know you can sign him
4.) 13 May 2016 01:32:49
Rather have Trouba
27 Apr 2016 14:21:01
TO Wild: Lupul, 50% salary retained. Leafs 2nd RD pick (31st), Percy
To Leafs: Vanek, Brodin
The prize here for Leafs is obviously Brodin.
The benefit to the Wild is unloading Vanek's hefty contract as they are in cap trouble, and they are short on picks this year. The Leafs 2nd is very appealing.
Lupul, if healthy is great value at $2.5M. If not, the Wild still save $7M in cap space.
Thoughts? If not Brodin, Dumba would also work in this proposal. although he is RFA so not quite as appealing.
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18 Feb 2020 19:33:24
Leafs have to find a top 4 RHD with term! Next year, on the right side...Leafs have Lily and Holl, that's it! Nobody else.
Barrie trade simply hasn't worked, time to minimize the damage:
Trade Barrie to whomever (Western conf team preferably) and maximize the return.
Take that return, add Kappy, and go get Dumba or Manson. Let's be honest, it's going to take more than Kappy to get either of these guys - but it's time to strengthen our D core.
1.) 20 Feb 2020 16:43:52
I don't think leafs want dumba. He has never played a full season with his injuries, on top of that he is not a stay at home defenseman. He's always been known for offense. Sure makes a big hit once in a while but dumba is not very good for the leafs. Mason would be great here but the ducks want a lot for him and the leafs do not have much to offer. They want draft picks and young prospects, there not looking really for anyone else. the want to rebuild completely.
It will take a lot of top prospects picks to get mason which does suck but i still believe dubas will figure something out if not well that's just life sometimes.
11 May 2016 17:06:00
If I was Lou, I'd try and trade for the rights to Stamkos. This of course would only happen if Tampa is sure they can't sign him. Would not have to give up a lot for his rights, in my opinion. It also provides an extra year if/ when they do sign Stamkos!
If the Leafs then had confirmation they were signing Stamkos before the draft, it would make offers for the #1 OA pick very interesting!
Lou could push hard to land OEL + + + and set this team up to be very strong for years to come.
Don't get me wrong, I'm very excited to have Matthews become a long time Leafs star. but if the Leafs can get Stamkos plus a package that included OEL and a few other strong pieces. WOW!
1.) 12 May 2016 00:58:05
Honestly it's better that we only sign him for 7 in my opinion. Because they aren't trading away Matthews, and eventually Matthews, Nylander, and Marner are going to be expensive.
02 Jul 2015 16:31:41
Now that Kessel has been dealt, here's hoping Phaneuf is next in line. After the frenzy yesterday, the teams that 'could' be interested in Phaneuf has likely decreased quite a bit.
I could see Kings, who seem to have freed up some much needed cap space as a fit. Perhaps Buffalo as well. Caps losing Green means they might need to fill that hole.
Any other thoughts for potential clubs that might be interested in Dion?
1.) 02 Jul 2015 17:07:02
Dion
For
Person and a first pick
15 Jun 2015 17:05:46
Just curious what fellow Leafs fans actually expect to happen on or before draft day?
We're all excited and want to see multiple blockbuster deals, but reality says those deals simply don't happen very often in today's cap world.
Here are the 3 options I can see:
1) Very little happens, Leafs draft at # 4 and # 24 and next years line-up looks relatively the same. This would be disappointing!
2) Leafs trade 1 of Kessel or Phaneuf, get a another pick or two plus another prospect. This would be pretty good as a Leafs fan!
3) Leafs pull off multiple trades, including Kessel and Phanuef, and the "re-build get's a huge kick-start. This would be awesome!
Personally, I see option # 2 happening and I really hope it's NOT option # 1.
31 May 2015 18:55:41
Ok Leafs fans, reading a lot of "sources" that suggest 'Zona is taking Strome at # 3 OA. If that happens, who thinks Leafs should offer up 4th OA to Edmonton for Draisaitle? Oil could pick up Hanifin, and Leafs get a potential 1C that they need. After watching his play in the memorial cup. I would do this deal in a heartbeat! Curious to see reaction?
18 Feb 2020 19:35:52
There is a reason both Montreal and now Nashville has shipped PK out of town. not just his huge cap hit.
Stay away, he's not the answer. Younger guys with term - that's the key now.
Leafs have proven 1 thing this year, they can be a dangerous team on any given night. but they are not yet cup contenders.
09 Feb 2020 15:13:14
I don’t think they should include Lily, in any deal. Even if getting a RHD like Dumba, leafs right side is so thin. More “depth†on the left side, especially if they re-sign Muzzin. Likely have to include Dermott (because no chance they are giving up Sandin) .
07 Feb 2020 18:57:59
I'm not saying Miller is the # 1 RHD, but he would fill a 2nd or 3rd line RHD spot which the Leafs are very thin at. Next year, we have Holl. that's it. I see this like move # 1, but the Leafs still go out and find that # 1 RHD in the summer.
09 Jul 2017 20:58:58
The Doughty rumours are interesting, the Kings are in cap Hell and need a pretty solid rebuild. Doughty is not a guy the Kings would want to part with, so it would have to be a very solid return.
Leafs have a cap crunch coming with the "big 3". BUT. what if they replaced Nylander for Doughty's money? I agree with OP, a 'bad contract' may need to be included as well as other pieces.
Nylander has a ton of value for a team like the Kings!
This team with Marleau and Doughty. cup contenders!
23 Feb 2017 17:19:44
Yep, saw him play. What I saw was Nylander raising his value.
Simple math really, you're not going to pluck away a high end D-prospect (RHD as well) unless you give up a kings ransom.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying trade away Nylander for just anything. It has to be what the Leafs mgmt think will be a top 4 D pairing and I feel Montour is just that.
I have a hard time seeing how the Leafs don't make at least 1 trade for a really good young D-man. This rebuild is moving faster than expected, but their Defensive prospect cupboard is very weak outside of Neilson and maybe Dermott. They should continue to draft and develop, but that will take a few years for new prospects. They can try free agency, but they will overpay (as every team does in free agency) and eventually that will become a problem (when all these young superstar rookies need new contracts) .
So, if they don't make at least 1 'hockey trade' how does the current Defense get better anytime soon?
My view of the future Leafs defense:
Reilly TBD
Gardiner Zaitsev
Neilson TBD
Carrick.
03 Jul 2015 16:43:56
Good post, I agree with you. Especially considering Kessel's no trade team list and all other GM's in the league knowing that the Leafs wanted to move Kessel. Shannahan and team did pretty well.
I trust Dubas, Hunter and the others in Leafs management and it seemed like they gave their thumbs up because Kapanan was in the deal so I have confidence he can turn out to be a top 6 forward one day!
I'd like to see a few more trades, including Phaneuf. simply because a fresh new leadership group/locker room will do wonders for this team come October!
15 Jun 2015 22:16:46
Agree with this, hope he can stay healthy and if he does he will be more attractive to a contender at the trade deadline!
Leafs will not be in cap trouble, so no need to 'give' him away.
01 Jun 2015 19:19:27
I say move Phaneuf out, I think 'stripping' him of the C would (further) hurt his confidence and pride. Move him out, let him have a fresh start someone else as a top 4 D man instead of the # 1 guy and Captain of the biggest hockey market on the planet.
Roll with 3 A's for now, eventually giving the C to Reilly. just not yet. Let him develop for another 2 years.