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12 Nov 2018 03:28:54
Anaheim isn't doing all that well and might be looking to rebuild sooner than later.

Tor- 2019 1st, Bracco, Gardiner
Ana- Manson

This is an overpayment by the leafs but we get the player that we need.


Tor- Timashov, Korshkov, 2020 2nd

Don't know Hjarmalsson's value but I feel like that could be close.


1.) 12 Nov 2018 11:13:31
Very interesting way not getting Manson. different which is good.

I think this deal has traction so good call.
Basically 5-6 months of Gardiner for 4 years of Manson

Might have to add another prospect or 2 to go with Bracco and 1st rounder.

Other than its ok.



01 Nov 2018 16:15:22
Tor - Nylander, liljegren, 1st, gardiner

Car- slavin, pesce

Toronto might have to add but this gives Toronto a rock solid d core. Slavin will be elite and pesce will be a star as well.



1.) 01 Nov 2018 19:00:29
Your giving up way to much, Liljgren is worth more then Pesce, now do the math for the rest, I it was Nylander, Gardiner, 2nd for Slavin Pesce, maybe.

2.) 01 Nov 2018 19:16:23
Your right mostleaf except Pesce is worth more right now. He is proven in NHL. Lilly no.

3.) 01 Nov 2018 19:54:26
But Lilly is 19 and is GOING to make the leafs next year, and he looked exceptionally good in the preseason so in my opinion a 1 for 1 Liljgren for Pesce would be a tough pill to swallow for the leafs.

4.) 01 Nov 2018 21:31:59
Im not saying I would trade him. But Pesce is 23 and proving to be a really good one already. Prospects are just that until proven. There have been quite a few first round busts over the years. Talent is there though. The mental side is the hard part, especially for defenceman.

5.) 01 Nov 2018 23:29:47
Oh man. This is a toughie. Hate to give up Liljegren, but for Slavin I think we would have to do it. We wouldn’t really be saving any money because Gardiner is gone anyway, but Slavin and Pesce are both signed long term to very reasonable contracts, and would really provide stability to our back end.

Liljegren worth more than Pesce is debatable. I’d say they’re about even at this point. As for the rest, Slavin is definitely worth more than Nylander. The 1st is what we have to pay Carolina to take Gardiner off our hands, who may not re-sign with ‘Canes. So it’s compensation for the extra risk they incur taking on a pending UFA while giving up two high end defensemen signed to very team friendly contracts.

6.) 02 Nov 2018 05:09:02
Leafs GM that's what I was thinking also we have sandin in the system which would make trading liljegren easier.

7.) 02 Nov 2018 05:42:14

It was a good proposal. Carolina gives up a couple really good defensemen, but receive a couple back, along with Nylander and the pick. We get the help we need on the back end, and they get help up front, plus some futures.

All round, this was the best proposal I’ve seen all day. A lot of very high quality players suggested, and the value and fit seems right for both teams.

I wish I had thought of this one. Good job. Its a real winner, and though I don't think Dubes has the chops to try a trade like this just yet, I wish he would. I really think Slavin would be a good pickup and could even possibly replace Reilly in a few years.

8.) 02 Nov 2018 05:48:40
I like your stuff VanCreamsdyk. Its always thought out well and makes sense. I enjoy reading posts like yours that make sense and are unusual. This one was easily the best I’ve seen in a while.



17 Oct 2018 04:53:03
Apparently Edm called on Nylander

Tor- Nylander, 2019 1st
Edm- Bouchard, Nurse


1.) 17 Oct 2018 11:07:42
Great deal. love if this happened. please.

2.) 17 Oct 2018 13:03:49
Doubt that you get both young RHD from Edmonton.

Switch it to this

To TOR: D - E. Bouchard + 1st

To EDM: F - W. Nylander.

3.) 17 Oct 2018 13:44:52
I still think Nylander is worth more then Nurse, but when you throw in Bouchard, the leafs will definitely have to throw in a first to even it out.
It's a good proposal, but not one I think Edmonton does because they lose 2 quality deference which they really need help with right now.

4.) 17 Oct 2018 15:39:14
Nylander might be worth more than Nurse, but Bouchard + Nurse >>>> Nylander + 1st.

5.) 17 Oct 2018 16:06:11
Edmonton weak on d don't see this happening.



17 Oct 2018 04:51:34
Tor- Nylander, Marner, 2019 1st, Korshkov
Edm- McDavid

Edm will never trade him but hey it is Chiarelli could add more prospects but Nylander and Marner combined got over 120 points last year to McDavids 108


Funny thing is we save money on this deal.


1.) 17 Oct 2018 11:12:29
Nylander, Kapanen, Johnsson, Lindholm, Grundstrom, engvall
Gardiner, Rosen, Borgman, Liljegren, Lindgren,1st 19,20,21


Mcdavid and Nurse.

A bunch of swedes and a fin and a figure skater for glory. lol.

Don't care about cap that's not my job.

2.) 17 Oct 2018 15:37:30
I think Marner will come close to 100 points himself, and it’s not unreasonable to see him being Art Ross winner being the set up man for Tavares and Matthews.

This is actually probably an overpayment. You can say Chiarelli would never trade McDavid, but Oilers did trade Gretzky. McDavid mould force the issue if he becomes frustrated with management and goes public with a trade demand.

This is a neat little proposal. It actually works for both teams. We all know would never happen in a million years. But it’s always good to look at every possibility, no matter how far fetched. It’s all in good fun, which is why we all joined this site anyway.



12 Oct 2018 03:43:19
Tor- Nylander, 2019 1st, sandin
Dal- Hesikanen

Tor- Gardiner
Either a 1st or a young prospect (Maybe a guy like Kyrou)

Heiskanen replaces Gardiner in our lineup and our defence soon would look like


This also helps our cap out for now as we wouldn't have to resign Nylander and Gardiner and Heiskanen isn't due for an extension until 21-22


1.) 12 Oct 2018 06:31:45
I don’t think you will get Kyrou for Gardiner, but I totally see what you’re getting at.

Not sure Dallas would make this trade. I mean, they would have to seriously consider it, but at this point, I think Heiskenan is going to remain in Dallas for a very long time. Nylander is the best piece we got, and I just don’t think it’s enough, even with 1st + Sandin.




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02 Nov 2018 05:09:02
Leafs GM that's what I was thinking also we have sandin in the system which would make trading liljegren easier.




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21 May 2018 01:07:50
Wasn't me either. I'm all about trading for a big physical defenseman that can clear the front on the net.




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20 May 2018 21:38:27
I would disagree Parayko is a great young defenseman on a good contact. Toronto would have to overpay to get him but he's big young and talented and played with reilly on team north America and they were amazing together.




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12 Apr 2018 05:26:00
No. just no.




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17 Feb 2018 07:41:01
No from leafs.





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