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08 Jan 2020 21:57:38
Tampa is going to have a rough off season maximizing the return on the people they can't afford.
Tor: liljegren Bracco 2020 2nd and 4th
Tampa: Erik cernak
It's exactly what the leafs need in a dman and Tampa replaces RFA with three years of ELC in two positions
1.) 09 Jan 2020 00:46:21
In the long run, Tampa wins. But I’m the short term this deal definitely makes the Leafs stronger. And since they are virtually guaranteed to meet first round m, I don’t see Tampa making this deal at all.
2.) 09 Jan 2020 06:15:23
I don't like it for either side. Long term Tampa gets the better players short term leafs do but have a hard time resigning him.
I honestly hate the playoff format.
3.) 09 Jan 2020 11:42:25
Sorry meant to note that this would be at the end of this season.
4.) 09 Jan 2020 12:26:32
I hate this new playoff format too. This is the absolute dumbest format I’ve ever seen for a professional sports organization. It’s complicated, and it is nonsense that the top teams have to play each other early. Any other sport you absolutely do not have the top seeds playing each other and a method of letting the bottom seeded teams get through to the later rounds easier. I’ve never once read anyone anywhere say they like this new format, and whoever the genius was that invented this system should be fired, as should Bettman.
5.) 09 Jan 2020 18:09:55
Agree completely. Last year Boston Toronto Tampa. 3 of the top teams league wide and 2 have to play each other. What incentive is there to finish second in the division now? So you can play a team 1 point behind you?
6.) 09 Jan 2020 21:05:55
Exactly. It almost gives teams an incentive to tank once they have a playoff spot guaranteed. If Leafs get a kick in a playoff spot after say 75 games. Why not bench your best players basically for the last half dozen games instead of risking them getting hurt and tank the remainder of the year so you come in somewhere in the middle of the pack? Then your best players are rested for the playoffs and the team faces weaker competition that way. Seems like a smart idea to me. If those last half dozen games are meaningless anyway other than to determine who you face first round, the game the system and shoot for a weaker opponent.
28 Nov 2019 23:42:57
Tor: kapanen, liligren 4th Rd pick 2020
Nah: Ekholm, 3rd Rd pick 2020
Nashville obviously needs more scoring upfront and get a more than suitable replacement prospect for him
Leafs get stable all around dman with cost certainty for this and two more seasons
1.) 29 Nov 2019 07:41:50
Would rather have Lili and Kappy than ekholm. If you made it Ceci and Kapanen would could talk but as is; Liljigren will be on the team next year with a few years of ELC coming up (cost certainty) and could easily be a better player (or worse who knows? ) . To throw in Kapanen is a bit to much.
2.) 29 Nov 2019 09:34:33
I have to disagree. For one Nashville wouldn't be able to absorb Cecis cap and two Ekholm is worth more than what I proposed he will easily play along side Rielly as where liligren would not be near ready for that task.
3.) 29 Nov 2019 14:03:04
Yeah. I don’t see Nashville making this deal. They need some more talent up front, but I don’t think a 3RW gets us Ekholm. Too bad. Cause he would be a fine addition to the team.
4.) 29 Nov 2019 16:46:35
The thing I think everyone is missing here is ekholm is a left hand shot we tried this we Muzzin last year and it didn’t work can’t see it working with him either.
05 Jul 2019 15:18:20
With a possible offer sheet incoming we need to shed around 2M, if we don't before the sheet comes or before mitch signs here we will lose value on the pieces we need to move to fit him in if it is a matchable offer.
Leafs, Nylander, borgman
Canes, Pesce, forward prospect of some sort
I think we can all agree that if Nylander gets back to form we technically lose the trade but if we lose the trade why not have lower cost certainty on a right shot D.
We gain almost 3M in space and have a really tight D group
Johnson - Matthews - kapanen
Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Moore - kerfoot - mikheyev
Agostino/petan -spezza- Bracco
Rielly - Pesce
Muzzin - Barrie
Dermott - Ceci
Both 1 and 2 pairs have a great offensive and defensive player
1.) 05 Jul 2019 15:42:05
My thoughts are that if Marner wants $11M+ on a deal, let him walk and take the 4 1st round picks. I don't feel that Marner is a $4M better player than Nylander
As much as I would be saddened to see Marner go, those 4 1st round picks can come in handy to add talent now or at the trade deadline.
2.) 05 Jul 2019 15:52:53
Dubas isn’t going to give into marner he’s not worth what he wants in value with that being said Nylander will not be traded he now is on a decent deal and with the possibility that marner may not be back it may not be a smart choice I’d rather not over pay marner we can do a lot with 4 1st and 9 mil in cap space.
3.) 05 Jul 2019 18:47:34
Lol
Dubas is prepared for any offer sheet
Who is dumb enough to give marner one that will cost them 4 first rd picks?
4.) 05 Jul 2019 20:00:37
NYI are the team who are dumb enough to give up 4 X 1's Rd picks. If they offer 12.5M (as rumors has it), the leafs will let him go. They should then sign Gardner and one of Johansson or Ferland.
5.) 06 Jul 2019 03:01:16
Sbs I agree. Lou is dumb enough. So so glad he is not running the leafs.
6.) 06 Jul 2019 04:18:14
NYI has less cap space than the Leafs, and they stilm have to sign Beauvillier. I get that Lou's a Sith Lord, but they're in a worse spot capwise than the Leafs. I don't see it coming from NYI.
7.) 06 Jul 2019 12:24:13
Lou will get creative and make room for marners 12.5
That’s why a trade with Dubas and Lou will work better . like Sakic did, both sides win and nobody feels slighted
Marner borgman the goat sparks to nyi
Cizikas greiss Pulock clears 9 mill in cap plus Lou adds a couple solid prospects like bellows and wilde
Cizikas plays lw with Tavares a Long Island reunion
Pulock pairs with captain Morgan
Greiss is a solid backup for Freddy maybe idiot Babcock will have Freddy play only 55 games
Bellows gets top line minutes with the Marlies
Wilde gets top pairing minutes with Sandin with the Marlies and both make the team in 2020-21 as we won’t resign muzzin and ceci. We will extend Barrie and Pulock after this year
Lou gets what he wants Mitch’s daddy gets his $ and the leafs get some nice adds to the big club and a pair of A list prospects.
19 Jun 2019 16:18:15
As much as I'd like to keep Marner the money is too high. Either we let him sign the offer sheet take the 4 1st and flip those four firsts for two top fours or make a trade along the lines of...
Leafs - Marner 2020 6th
Hurricanes - Pesce or slavin, Hamilton foegele 2020 2nd
Or
Leafs - Marner 2020 4th
Ducks - Manson Lindholm Ritchie
Obviously both would require tweaks
But in both cases we would have to clear at least 1.5M so brown to EDM for a 3rd
1.) 19 Jun 2019 17:51:10
Or you could add Brown to either proposal here to make them a little less favourable for the Leafs, as right now I would say both these proposals are in Leafs favor. Both teams would love to have Brown too. And adding Zaitsev to replace at least one lost defenseman might help facilitate a trade like either of these.
Anaheim isn’t going to trade their entire top line of defense. Especially after already trading Montour. They would be losing 3/ 4 of their top 4 and only have Fowler, who is injury prone, remaining. I don’t think Anaheim wants to tank. They still are trying to ice a competitive team.
Carolina has much more depth than Anaheim. But again, asking for two of their top 4 defensemen probably isn’t going to happen. Foegele sucks anyway. Maybe asking for Pesce + Terevainen or Svechnikov might work better for both teams.
I see what you are wanting to do, but even though these two teams are very heavy in defensemen doesn’t mean they will blow up their entire back end for one player, no matter how good marner is.
16 Feb 2019 17:07:17
First post,
Regarding friedmans latest.
ANA Trades - Montour,
TOR Trades - , Johnson, Liligren, bracco 2019 2nd 2020 3rd Zaitzev
Anahiem will want a replacement for montour due to the extra year on his contract
unfortunately this is what it would take for us to fit montour and rid ourselves of Z but anahiem still probably doesn't go for it
if ANA nneds to send something back for cap space so be it, if they do remove 2020 2nd
12 - 34 - 24
11 - 91 - 16
63 - 43 - 29
26 - 33 - 42
44 - Montour
8 - 2
51 - 23
1.) 16 Feb 2019 20:00:10
Johnson and liljegren is enough for montour
Bracco for zaitsev contract is enough
Lose the picks and i think this deal works
Hate to lose liljegren but having montour for a while will make me forget the leafs even had liljegren
Good proposal. especially for your first post. well done. nore proposals like these and youll easilly have you become a top contributor to this site.
2.) 16 Feb 2019 22:46:53
thank you, i appreciate that.
the only reason the picks were included was because we would put anahiem essentially at the cap, and i'm not sure how high they may value a forward like bracco.
3.) 16 Feb 2019 23:25:58
Six pieces for Montour is way too much.
You can get him for 2-3 pieces depending who the pieces are.
4.) 16 Feb 2019 23:41:06
six pieces is a lot for montour but zaitzev is one of them. so 2-3 pieces are to offset his contract. it may be overkill but it clears wasted cap space.
5.) 17 Feb 2019 00:37:12
Very excellent point TheOtherAuston. loving your mojo on this site. keep up good work.
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24 Jan 2020 14:54:47
Man you really have no idea how to do any of this do you?
A cap dump a basic fourth liner and Dermott doesn't get you Manson, and you want to add one of their best up and comer?
Seriously man post like these are why we get ridiculed on every site by every single other team supporter.
24 Jan 2020 14:51:15
I don't think kap and Dermott get you Dumba, let alone tossing in Greenway.
Be alittle more realistic man.
23 Jan 2020 18:46:14
Lol Florida smacks you.
21 Jan 2020 14:49:48
Holy hell that's terrible.
14 Jan 2020 20:16:33
Leafs would have to give up the better pick and a B grade D prospect.
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