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21 Jun 2016 23:11:52
As a leafs fan, what would be your thoughts on
JVR and Komarov
For
5th overall and Tanev.
1.) 21 Jun 2016 23:56:25
Too little return for the Leafs.
2.) 22 Jun 2016 01:48:42
I think lab16 and you are high. what planet are you people on that your getting the fifth overall pick and Tanev for that?. I love the Leafs but give me a break.
3.) 22 Jun 2016 02:26:12
Juolevi and Tanev will be at worst an awesome 2nd pair, I don't know it that would be too little. They could add a prospecg like Boeser could be a player they could try to getting adding Gauthier in return, just doubt they'd add
4.) 22 Jun 2016 02:44:31
Jimmy JVR is a second overall pick man, 30 goal scores don't grow on trees. JVR is worth the 5th, Komarov may not be as good as Tanev, but with values high and Benning having less than half a clue while wanting to make a playoff push still, it could go down. I don't think Van would add though forsure, maybe the leafs add a B/C prospect.
5.) 22 Jun 2016 04:01:23
JVR is worth the pick and the prospect alone, and you want to give them uncle Leo?
Tanev 18 pts, -8, never played more than 70 games, comes from a losing team that has the twins (talk about tanking).
5th overall - about a 70% chance of playing more than 200 games. That doesn't mean being good; just playing 200 games. You can look up the historical compilation of draft position for playing 200 games, pts/GP, and relative value to the #1 pick.
After that, you will, maybe, come "back to earth", and realize Jimmy, that it is "you" that is "high" and that's why everyone else appears to be, just to you. We just gave up a 1st and a 2nd for a goalie. How does that fit your argument here?
Everyone is on the "pick is everything" bandwagon right now, but the picks after the first three drop in value considerably.
"No one" is going to pick Juolevi when they can have Tkachuk or Dubois and that Sergachyov is probably better (he's certainly bigger). Not unless they have entirely screwed up their rebuild for 10 years, and are desperate for D (ahem!).
I watched Juolevi on the Knights all winter, and while he is good, he is also light, not aggressive, can be knocked off the puck easily. He is Gardiner light.
Sergachyov on the other hand is bigger, a better skater, is aggressive, and scored more pts on a worse team.
Juolevi is living off the hype of the U18 and playing on a championship OHL team.
And Jimmy, we all know you are an Oilers fan, you just have to stop smoking the oil.
6.) 22 Jun 2016 09:15:42
Geez not even Benning would do this. get a grip jvr is not Bobby hull folks.
7.) 22 Jun 2016 10:15:16
Thx hpm. someone with some common sense. there is not one single gm in the nhl that trades the fifth overall pick in this year's draft straight up for JVR!!. let alone with a prospect attached to it. not one I tell ya!. why?. because a guy named Pierre Luc Dubois. you get him for cheap for the next seven years that's why!. he's bigger faster and is nasty and projects to be pretty damn good. oh did I mention he's cheap labor for the next 7 years and he's about 8 years younger?. yeah that's what I thought. enough said
8.) 22 Jun 2016 10:24:04
My dear friend lab 16
My name is James and I was born in Toronto Ontario in 1971 in the sick children's hospital . that is a fact. however I've been living in Edmonton since I was 9 years old as that was my father's decision to move out west. I will have you know that I have lived and died with my blue and white hometown boys from the six all my life. so that's just a bit about me and what I stand and who I cheer for. I folow this game very diligently and I've always been a hockey fan at heart. so there!!. lol. as it pertains to your response I kinda like some of what you had to say . but I repeat. nice and loud so everyone can hear. no one and I mean no gm in the nhl would trade you this year's 5th overall pick for JVR!!. not one. if they would have then Lou would have already have done it and that gm would be fired!. end of story!;)
9.) 22 Jun 2016 13:34:35
Or. Dubois is the second coming of Nick Ritchie, for whom the masses (including Grapes) roasted the Leafs for selecting Nylander ahead of!
10.) 22 Jun 2016 18:47:32
Nail yakupov was a 1st ova pick does that mean he still worth a 1 ova? Should we trade him for Matthews? That's fair right? jvr has scored 30 once! And it was 30 bang on. lab 16 u are stupid . and stupid people u can you tell them from a mile away but up close you can't tell them anything. put the pipe down bro
11.) 22 Jun 2016 18:48:25
Same goes for dream 43. he just can't wake up!
12.) 23 Jun 2016 00:31:24
HPM: Bobby Hull: 1 cup, defector, bad attitude, enough said.
JIMMY: Do you repeat where your from every time you get criticized or your allegiance is challenged.
As for Dubois, he might go as high as third. How does that affect Vancouver's drafting? Drafting is a crap shoot, nothing is guaranteed to work, and what you want may not be available at draft time. We actually do agree on Dubois, and I think he could go to Columbus, although the GM is Finnish and he will make a mistake by picking Jesse.
JVR is a LW power forward at a 60pt/season rate on bad Toronto teams. He hasn't played with a quality center-man yet or on a quality team, yet he still delivers a 60 pt. rate.
Kinner29 actually brought up Yakapuff as a reference, and made my day, and my point for me, only he's not going to realize it.
Keep on smoking the oil as well Kinner. (It's a containment metonym; not that you will know what that is or what is meant by it!). Lovely grammar and punctuation by the way! You must have lots of friends being so smart and all.
Now Jimmy, please have some Doritos, and 7 or 8 brews and calm down, relax, do whatever it is you Oilers fans have done during the 10 year tank.
I only have 1 question for you. What are you going to do if it's the Oilers vs. the Leafs in the cup in 5 years or so?
Have you thought about that! Mr. Fence Sitter.
13.) 23 Jun 2016 05:03:59
To my dear friend lab16
I don't need to worry who I cheer for because I've loved the Leafs all my life. to answer your question I would always cheer for Toronto . oh one more thing. I do respect your opinion on here. however you do have the democratic right to be wrong though. just because you berate other people on here and go on long nonsensical rants doesn't make you right. btw one thing still remains. your still waaaay overvaluating JVR. I love hI'm personally but at least I like to think I'm realistic about it. have a nice day;)
14.) 23 Jun 2016 09:01:32
settle down ladies.
15.) 23 Jun 2016 12:24:31
1st of all Jimmy; I don't go around berating people, but I do respond when people like you imply that other people are high, when you don't like their content. As a matter of fact Jimmy, you do it all the time, and rarely ever post. It's pretty sad.
A lot of my posts are cynical humour after cheering for a team that hasn't won a cup since 67. A lot of people just don't get what I write and that's ok! But no, I don't go around calling people high, I don't continuously insult them. But you do! You have issues pal. Try to be a little more polite.
It's amazing how you react when someone does it to you.
21 Jun 2016 03:12:19
If the leafs sign stammer the only way they fit him under cap with all the rookies moving out of ELC in 3 years is if they move JVR. He'll ask 7m in 2 years and no longer will he have the great contract he has rn. I'd want something along the lines of:
JVR, Leipsic, Percy and pick 31 for pick 19, Strome, Dal Colle and Pulock
Hefty price for them but they instantly get a cheaper, better and younger players to replace Okposo.
1.) 21 Jun 2016 04:52:53
You do realize they can bridge the youngsters, ship people out in a couple of years, or pull one of Lou's roster moves to get out from under salary. There are a lot of options.
2.) 21 Jun 2016 12:36:01
They drop about 10 mill off the cap next year with the UFAs they will not be resigning if I'm not mistaken
3.) 21 Jun 2016 12:59:07
DBF I understand where you're coming from but I really don't see the advantage to bridge a player that's already a star when we can have him long term.
Talking about cap, Robidas was never put on IR last year, it's doubtful he's allowed to be added to it. People seem to believe that he's a genius for making him "disappear" but it seems as though Lou was just trying to be nice enough not to come out and say "we made a shit signing and this guy is no longer even close to an NHLer"
Though I do agree you could find a way to keep JVR, I just find it would be in their best interest not to waste his contracts value rn before he asks for the 7m that all 30 goal scores ask. I guess I worded my post wrong though, and values are a little off, because of how quick I tossed it together.
4.) 21 Jun 2016 13:01:38
They do drop tons of cap, but Zaitsev, Carrick will be up for contract if they play good in the 2nd pair hole commending a raise, plus the big 3 kids are easily going to get 7+ each if they pan out.
5.) 21 Jun 2016 17:04:17
fyi, to jdawgt.o's point, which was a good one
they drop 19.5 mil next year off 6 contracts. laich, michalek, greening, robidas, hunwick, bernier.
if they keep all 6 this year and let them expire or if they trade and don't take back any other contracts longer then this year or retain, that is huge for the cap. (add on if they can get rid of lupul without retaining or buy him out, adds more to this figure).
keeping that in mind, after anderssen's contract yesterday, hope they don't take on any more big contracts this summer except iffffffffff they sign stamkos.
make some calls on larger contracts next summer.
13 Feb 2016 17:25:19
TOR: Komarov
For
FLA: Pirri and a 3rd
Pirri is on the outs in FLA and has some high end skills, Komarov would fill an leadership/ physical void for them on their 2nd/ 3rd line
TOR: JVR, Gauthier
For
WPG: Trouba, Comrie
Fills Andrew Ladd's void for WPG and fills the RD star that the leafs lack, also bringing in a good goalie prospect. Also toss in so old regime from Toronto for a PK defensive prospect for WPG.
TOR: Polak + Valiev
For
SJ: Jeremy Roy
Another good prospect on the point, doubt SJ would want to move, but a guy I'd target and overpay a little for. They're looking hard at Polak and Valiev/ another lower D prospect to lessen the prospect blow for SJ
TOR: Parenteau
For
STL: Binnington
Goalie prospect fallen out of favour in STL with a couple other good goalies coming in, could have a turnaround in T. O with the little goalie depth we have. STL adds scoring depth for their run.
TOR: Reimer
For
CAL: Oliver Kylington + 2nd
Calgary gets a starter that they've been missing since Kipper left, and toronto gets a boom or bust star Dman (What they like) and get a good pick in the upcoming draft.
1.) 14 Feb 2016 03:26:43
Really like the JVR and Reimer trades, solid ideas.
2.) 14 Feb 2016 05:51:36
Also look to dumb bozak for a second or something.
Some young guys leafs should target imo:
D Julius Honka, Dallas Stars Age: 20
D Chris Bigras, Colorado Avalanche Age: 20
D Jeremy Roy, San Jose Sharks Age: 18
G Eric Comrie, Winnipeg Jets Age: 20
G Alex Nedeljkovic, Carolina Hurricains Age: 19
G Jordan Binnington, St. Louis Blues Age: 22
3.) 14 Feb 2016 16:05:56
Good post. Many great ideas and they make sense. If Trouba can come over it would allow the Leafs to draft forwards as their defensive core of Rielly, Gardner and Trouba would be a GREAT starting point in the rebuild.
4.) 14 Feb 2016 17:15:40
Agree, though i'd still like picking up a few D in the draft like Sam Girardi. Juolevi would be crazy if we can somehow move up our 2nd 1st
5.) 17 Feb 2016 05:15:20
Yup, good post. I like the Calgary one too, If Bracco was our steal at #60, Kylington was calgary's steal at #59. he could be a gem
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17 Jun 2016 14:04:15
Some people on this site need to consider the trade they're proposing from the other teams point of view. These trades may bode well for the Leafs, but if it's not helping the other team too it's not going to happen.
Matthews won't get traded. In no circumstance will the leafs consider trading him, because there is no realistic deal that would make both teams better.
1OA for OEL, Strome, Domi and 7th looks great for the leafs but how will ARI make a team with 1 good player?
7th,20th and Dvorak looks great for Ari, bringing a potential franchise centre in for 3 good parts. But as a Leafs fan you're losing a 1C for parts.
Think before you post people. We don't need to see 17 B2B posts about Matthews for ludicrous packages.
15 May 2016 18:59:37
Why is everyone so down to move Kapanen? what is the thoiught process?
"He's Nylander's age and isn't superhuman like Nylander? Must be a bust?"
I think he's on the list of very few prospects that are not movable.
IMO Kapanen, Soshnikov, Brown, Dermott, C.Carrick, Marner and Nylander
1.) 15 May 2016 23:05:49
It's not that he's a bust, I think it's just that people are hoping to trade from our strength (higher skilled wingers) for positions of weakness (D and G) for a quicker fix of those areas. I don't know if I agree or not.
Shadow
2.) 16 May 2016 19:38:20
I understand that but I don't understand why he's the prospect everyone is using to throw in? lol. Some people have him in solid trades, others are giving him to even out a package like he's a late round pick. Either way, I just find it funny that he's the only one being named on this site, but I guess once someone says something people tend to follow around here. (ie: Andersen, Vesey, Barrie )
3.) 20 May 2016 15:37:41
In my opinion Kapanen doesn't look like he will be a top 6 forward. Probably a bottom 6 player and that's why people will add him as a plus to push a trade through. Honestly, I don't think Kapanen will be anything special, he doesn't seem to have the drive and heart that players like Nylander and Marner have. And don't say that it's because he's not as skilled as the other two, he has the skills and he's proved that but the motivation isn't where it needs to be, players like Hyman may not have the skill but they have a ton of motivation and heart, that's why I see players like Hyman, Brown, and Soshnikov being more successful than Kapanen.
4.) 30 May 2016 22:16:58
Kappanen is only 19. He needs more development on this side of ocean in the AHL working on all aspects of his game. He's got enough raw talent, just needs put it together.
You could see it when he came up to the Leafs; he was just lost.
07 May 2016 15:38:35
Lineup Layout IMO
Core: Marner, Matthews, Nylander and Rielly
Cores protection: Kadri, JVR, Komarov and Gardiner
Variables: Hyman, C. Carrick, Zaitsev, Soshnikov, Brown, Bozak and Bernier
Bubble players: Hunwick, Marincin, Harrington, Percy, Leivo, Leipsic, Laich, Michalek, Greening, Kapanen and Johnson
Lineup:
LW C RW
JVR Matthews Marner
Soshnikov Nylander Hyman
Leivo Kadri Komarov
Michalek Laich Greening (This Year)
Leipsic Johnson Kapanen (Next/ Post TDL)
LD RD
Rielly Carrick
Gardiner Zaitsev
Corrado Harrington
G
Bernier
Looking at this lineup 3 things are evident.
1. That could be a really good team lmao
2. Missing a #1 RD
3. Missing a LT Starting goalie
Ways to fix this:
1. Well everyone pans out, up to team to develop them properly.
2. Go after Lindholm, then Trouba and then Barrie.
Lindholm is the best target, least likely to be moved though.
Offer:
JVR, Leivo and WSH 2nd for Lindholm
Fills ANA big gap at LW and rids them of a big contract negotiation they'd need to make after the other bunch they have (Vatanen, Rakell and Andersen)
JVR and Kapanen for Trouba and Comrie
Don't like dealing Kapanen but he's a guy at about that value, maybe swap him for the 31st pick. Replaces Ladd for them, and gives them value for players falling out of favour. Gives us a top D and a potential starter in one deal.
Bozak, Percy and PIT 1st for Barrie
For some reason, they still have Roy running the show over there (Braindead. ) They looked at Bozak in the offseason (i. e Bob Mckenzie) and get a pick/ prospect for a guy who was ripped on to the media for having a bad +/ - (LMAO) also an RFA so saves them negotiations and gives us the Top 2 D we need.
3. I'm not going to put values on goalies as their pretty much a wild card these days but some young they should look at are:
Vasilevski (TBL)
Jarry (PIT)
Comrie (WPG)
1.) 07 May 2016 16:54:47
In time I'm pretty sure rielly should become a #1, his stats are like Keith's when he was a rookie (better numbers in year 3 with much less pp time) But it's still possible something goes wrong
2.) 07 May 2016 17:01:10
Good post. Only changes I would make is komarov to play with nylander. he needs that veteran tough presence to protect him
Also, no Brown in that lineup. but I think he will be a leaf. The guy has been told his whole life that he wouldn't make it and he always comes through I expect no less of him in the NHL. I think 5 years from now we will look back and Connor Brown will be one of those infamous Detroit redwings pics where they have good roster players taken later in the draft.
I mean he only got a cup of tea in the nhl this year and put up 6 pts in 7 gms, and was noticeable out there
3.) 07 May 2016 19:29:14
Oh for sure, noticed I was missing someone when I slotted Leivo at 3 LW, couldn't put my finger on it aha. I'd flip them for sure, Leivo is expendable and Brown a 2-3 line piece.
4.) 08 May 2016 00:31:06
Good post. Last two deals are my favs.
14 Feb 2016 17:47:15
Is it just me or would signing Stamkos not be a crazy positive of a thing for Toronto?
He 100 percent wants 8 years. Most likely around 11 million. That's a HUGE chunk of the cap (Which is going down) With guys like Nylander and Marner + all the other prospects that may pan out and Rielly locked up long term, what would we have left to keep a solid 2nd 3rd and 4th line?
Say cap is 70 million. This is probably conservative on player salaries too.
11m Stamkos
6m Matthews
6m Marner
5m Kadri
6m Nylander
5.5m JVR
6m Rielly
4m Gardiner
6m Goalie
=55.5 Million
That leaves give of take depending on actual cap, 14.5 million. That would be to sign a 1-2 D, a 3-4 D, a whole 3rd pair and bottom 2 forward lines and a backup goalie. Obviously some cheap young guys will fill holes and maybe move Kadri, JVR and guys to make room, but ultimately Stamkos would still be overpaid and taking a huge chunk of the cap for the long haul. I'm in no way saying it's a bad thing to sign him, i'd offer 7-8 years at 9.5 million and see if he'd take the hometown discount. But paying him full price does restrict the future.
1.) 14 Feb 2016 17:56:34
You can only give him 8 years if he's an RFA or signing with original team. 7 is max.
2.) 14 Feb 2016 19:09:43
As much as Stamkos would look brilliant in a Maple Leaf uniform with a "C" on it, I think there are other options before the trade deadline. One being Edmonton Oilers. They have plenty of pieces to negotiate with before or at the trade deadline.
I think Stamkos and company are wanting too much in money for very good player with a great one-timer.
Let the Leafs keep building and developing within and not spend too much on a quick and expensive fix moving forward. The future is bright!
3.) 15 Feb 2016 03:27:00
100 percent forgot about that Leafs Lunch, same point though. 7 years at 11 mill still restricts them for years to come. Agree with you gcolpitts
26 Oct 2016 13:34:04
. Lab16, take the leafs goggles of man, this isn't even close. I'm a leafs fan and if we got offered this I would be absolutely shocked. Anaheim fans would be calling for Murray's head.
16 Oct 2016 15:31:45
Fowler isn't even close to Trouba level lmao
07 Aug 2016 15:43:11
Both players are pretty much useless to the leafs.
Dermott, Neilsen > Carlo
Subban is an undersized prospect who got lit up light a christmas tree in his only NHL stint.
JVR needs to get you a blue chip prospect not possible middle of the lineup players
07 Jul 2016 22:45:13
Clarksons contract is buyout proof, that's why we traded him?
03 Jul 2016 05:47:27
IMO Leafs say no. Both MIN guys will be good/already are good, but Nylander has star potential, I just don't see the upside (The team that gets the best player will almost always win the trade kinda perspective). Also Bozak fetches a 2nd most likely from a different team. JVR for a good D makes more sense as his timeline is much less on track with our development.
01 Jul 2017 14:04:15
Lmao, where do people come up with this stuff. Gardiner was our best D-man last season and it wasn't even close. JVR is a big man who pots 25 plus every season. and WERE giving OUR 1st with them for a second rounder and some spare parts. Yup. okay Dave Nonis. Players in development camp on invites aren't going to sign most of the time, no need to get flustered, we drafted a 6'7 RHD in the second round, it's not like we're anti size, they're going after market inefficiency. As for the rebuild, you do realize we're playoff team as it stands right? Come on, we're done building the base, we need to build as we grow (as all teams should) but the rebuild is mainly done. Get a grip man.
29 Jun 2017 13:04:51
I feel as though they all love the team and know they won't be able to stick together and compete at those prices. 9-10m for Auston and 6-6.5m for the other 2 is more of a goal imo.
29 Oct 2016 21:40:29
It was blatant too, really funny how sure stammer was that he was going to be sitting for 2 or more within a second of throwing the hit. Scoring right after was icing on the cake.
29 Oct 2016 21:37:49
this draft doesn't have a top end D other than Liljegren. Foote and Hague seem to be both guys overdraft because of the normal narrative "you can't teach size" Foote may be a solid player, but I don't see value in taking either player in the range they're projected. You'd be better off taking 3 shots in the second round at a D man and hoping one turns out to be a top 2-3.
23 Jun 2016 21:59:45
This isn't about the leafs?
*Rips hair out and curls into a ball in the corner of a dark room"