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13 Mar 2018 00:57:49
There is a high probability that Kyle Dubis will take over as GM next year which could present some new opportunities for the organization. And even though the cap is expected to increase to $80M I don't see the Leafs looking to go all out and sign too many big name free agents. Rather, I see Dubis lobbying more for some of his Marlies players to help increase the team's youth, speed and aggressiveness - all while managing the cap properly for when the likes of Nylander, Matthews & Marner sign their next contracts.
Here is my projected line up card concept over the course of two (2) years that doesn't break the bank yet still increases the Leafs youthful progression.
2018 Draft:
NYI or DET:
Matt Martin (LW, RW)
Connor Carrick (RD) * Player Rights
4th Round Draft Pick, 2018
TOR:
3rd Round Draft Pick, 2019
VGK:
Jake Gardiner (LD)
Josh Leivo (RW)
7th Round Draft Pick (ANA), 2018
TOR:
Oscar Lindberg (LW, C)
1st Round Draft Pick, 2019
2018 Free Agency Signings in Order:
John Tavares (C)
$11,750,000 t/ 8-year Contract
William Nylander (LW, C)
$5,000,000 t/ 6-year Contract
Andreas Johnsson (LW)
$1,200,000 t/ 3-year Contract
Miro Aaltonen (C, LW, RW)
$1,100,000 t/ 3-year Contract
Igor Ozhiganov (RD)
$1,775,000 t/ 2-year Contract
Justin Holl (RD)
$925,000 t/ 2-year Contract
Auston Matthews (C)
$11,850,000 t/ 10-year Contract
* 2019-20
Mitch Marner (LW, C)
$5,000,000 t/ 6-year Contract
* 2019-20
Kasperi Kapanen (RW)
$1,750,000 t/ 3-year Contract
* 2019-20
2018-19 Season Line Up
Hyman ($2.25M) Matthews ($925K) Nylander ($5.0M)
Marleau ($6.25M) Tavares ($11.75M) Marner ($894K)
Brown ($2.1M) Kadri ($4.5M) Kapanen ($863K)
Johnsson ($1.2M) Lindberg ($1.7M) Aaltonen ($1.1M)
Rielly ($5.0M) Zaitsev ($4.5M)
Hainsey ($3.0M) Ozhiganov ($1.77M)
Dermott ($863K) Holl ($925K)
Borgman ($925K)
Andersen ($5.0M)
McElhinney ($850K)
Total Cap Minus LTIR = $62,570, 833
2019-20 Season Line Up
Hyman ($2.25M) Matthews ($11.85M) Nylander ($5.0M)
Marleau ($6.25M) Tavares ($11.75M) Marner ($5.0M)
Johnsson ($1.2M) Kadri ($4.5M) Kapanen ($1.75M)
Aaltonen ($1.1M) Lindberg ($2.7M) Brown ($2.1M)
Rielly ($5.0M) Zaitsev ($4.5M)
Dermott ($863K) Liljegren (925K)
Borgman ($1.5M) Ozhiganov ($1.77M)
Holl ($925K)
Andersen ($5.0M)
Sparks ($675K)
Total Cap Minus LTIR = $77,813,333
1.) 13 Mar 2018 07:28:47
I didn't see this til now and posted a very similar lineup projection (a little less detail) . but I totally agree that it is very realistic to sign Tavares and be able to pay value to ALL of Mathews, Tavares, Marner and Nylander! With the continued pipeline of solid prospects that Hunter (and team) have been drafting. the Leafs can commit to the above 4 and still round out a very solid team. wouldn't it be incredible to see Tavares as a Leaf!
2.) 14 Mar 2018 22:28:49
Marner won't come that cheap nylander depends what he does in the playoffs.
3.) 15 Mar 2018 17:18:16
No way Marner and Nylander sign for 5 million per.
4.) 16 Mar 2018 05:06:37
Also I believe Tavares can only sign 7 yrs with us unless sign and trade. Matthews can only sign 8 yr. Yes, Marner will be 7.5 I’d say Nylander 7.
27 Feb 2018 16:35:53
Well, that was a very uneventful trade deadline for the buds. And as much as I was hoping that they would acquire a top 2/4 defenseman, I am glad that they did not pony up 1st/2nd round draft picks to do it. With that in mind, the team should now look ahead towards this year's draft/free agency.
2018 Draft:
NYI or DET:
Matt Martin (LW, RW) 50% Retain
4th Round Draft Pick, 2018
TOR:
6th Round Draft Pick, 2018
Martin just doesn't seem to fit with the Leafs organizational plan anymore - not with younger, faster and more ambitious prospects looking to break into the lineup. Thus, it would be better to try and make a trade during the draft to get him (good pro) a home where he can get back to playing on a regular basis.
VGK:
Jake Gardiner (LD)
Josh Leivo (RW)
7th Round Draft Pick (ANA), 2018
TOR:
Oscar Lindberg (LW, C)
1st Round Draft Pick, 2019
I'm not saying that the above team has to be Vegas. But trading the likes of Gardiner for a high draft pick before the season starts would be in the teams best interest for a few obvious reasons.
1.) Cap Space... Duh! With the likes of JVR, Bozak, Komorov & even Lupul's contract(s) ready to come off the books the Leafs have an excellent opportunity to take a serious run at UFA players come July 1st (i.e. John Tavares). Personally, if NYI doesn't make it into this year's playoffs I would be shocked if JT would want to stay anymore on the island.
2.) The Leafs need to look beyond the start of the 2018-19 season for better defensive upgrades (i.e. UFA's Doughty, Ekman-Larsson, Karlsson). Having an extra 1st round draft pick would go along ways to securing a top two defenceman for next years playoffs. But until when or if this scenario ever happens, it would behoove the Leafs brass to actually let some of their younger defensive prospects fight for a roster spot and see what they've got.
2018-19 Season:
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Kapanen-Tavares-Marner
Marleau-Kadri-Brown
Johnsson-Lindberg-Aaltonen
Rielly-Zaitsev
Hainsey-Ozhiganov
Dermott-Holl
Borgman
1.) 27 Feb 2018 18:19:36
So you want to trade a roster player, retain half his salary for the next two years and a 4th round pick for a 6th round pick? If you want him off the roster that badly better to waive him to the Marlies and keep the 4th. Cap savings are about the same if no one claims him.
2.) 27 Feb 2018 18:57:33
Spider, Your idea for Martin is also a viable option too. Having personally met the man, he really is a good pro! And would just hate to demoralize the guy by sending him to the minors ala Fehr.
3.) 27 Feb 2018 19:52:15
I understand your logic and feelings and I certainly don't want to tread on anyone's feelings ( yours or his), but business is business. He has been a good soldier for the leafs and a good pro. Leafs could waive him after they pay out his bonus this year (1.5M) which is only money to the cash deep Leafs and I am sure someone would pick him up off the wire for his base salary (.750M next year), a steal for someone. A win, win, win for everybody.
4.) 27 Feb 2018 21:55:06
Let's look at roster next season
Hyman Matthews nylander
Marleau kadri Marner
Johnson Statsny kapanan
Grundstrom UFA Leivo
Reilly Carlson
Gardner zaitsev
Dermott carrick/ lLiljegren
Nylander gets caught in front of leafs net with opposing sniper behind him. He isn't ready to be a centre yet
Guys love playing in NYC that's leafs competition for Carlson.
If leafs strike out with Carlson I have no clue where they go next. They are not ready to drop a ton of assets on a defencemen.
5.) 27 Feb 2018 22:41:11
Carlson would for sure be an upgrade for the Leafs d-core. But given the choice on who to spend money on, I would pursue Tavares every time. And I'm sure Babcock and Shanahan would too
I believe Liljegren will still need another year plus in the minors to perfect his game even more given that he is only 18 years old. To be honest I really liked Holl's game when called up. And not because he got 2 goals, but because he played smart in his own zone; was physical and really good at skating. Plus he and Dermott looked like a perfect combination.
6.) 28 Feb 2018 03:35:56
Tavares is staying New York Islanders or rangers and Carlson signs New York Rangers
American kid sooner play new fork than Toronto
Hell I would sooner play in New York over Toronto
Exciting City.
7.) 28 Feb 2018 07:40:25
I can't see anyone diving into new york with the downturn they'll see for a couple years they will want to go there in 3 or 4 years.
8.) 28 Feb 2018 15:11:54
Can I get an explanation for the Martin and 4th for a 6th trade?
I know usually I just come on here to black Mackin for his absolute stupidity (see above post where he calls it New Fork. sounds like an exciting city dumb dumb )
. I genuinely don’t understand the Martin proposed trade . Please explain
Thank you.
9.) 28 Feb 2018 19:24:53
Spider and ShanaPlan's back-and-forth explains it fairly well, the idea seems to be moving Martin out of respect for him instead of waiving him. His contract has term and decent money for a middling throwback 4th-liner, which makes him a fairly unattractive option for anyone. Retaining half the salary and offering a draft pick upgrade (6th to 4th) is just legal bribery.
Might as well offer him plus a bit of retained for "future considerations. "
10.) 28 Feb 2018 22:21:07
Marsbars
Thanks for the explanation
That would be some pretty weak managerial decision making . couldn't imagine Lou being that soft .
Can you believe that horse looking Canadian girl who took her silver medal off? Should not be allowed back in the country.
23 Feb 2018 17:59:48
WPG:
James Van Riemsdyk (LW) * Leafs retain 2.5M in salary
Roman Polák (RD)
TOR:
Nicolas Petan (C)
1st Round Draft Pick, 2018
3rd Round Draft Pick, 2019
Leafs gain a high draft pick for 2018. Winnipeg has more flexibility with their cap situation and may be able to secure another player via tade.
DET:
Andrew Nielsen (LD) * With the condition that he plays the remainder of this year/playoffs with the Marlies
2nd Round Draft Pick, 2018
2nd Round Draft Pick, 2019
TOR:
Mike Green (RD)
3rd Round Draft Pick, 2019
Leafs secure another veteran defenceman for their own playoff run. Detriot gains young prospect and draft picks to bolster the future roster.
EDM:
Josh Leivo (LW)
Connor Carrick (RD)
2nd Round Draft Pick, 2018 (SJS)
7th Round Draft Pick, 2018 (ANA)
TOR:
Patrick Maroon (LW)
Mark Letestu (C)
3rd Round Draft Pick, 2018
Leafs secure a more physical Left-Winger for the playoffs to replace JVR along with a Centerman who can help on the penalty kill. Edmonton gains young cap friendly players along with draft pick(s) belonging to western conference rivals.
2017-18 Playoffs:
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Marner
Maroon-Bozak-Brown
Komarov-Letestu-Kapanen
Moore
Rielly-Green
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Hainsey
Holl
1.) 23 Feb 2018 18:21:58
For the Winnipeg trade, you'd have to drop the first. Jets don't really need JVR except for maybe some playoff depth, so they won't give up a first for that.
2.) 23 Feb 2018 18:43:12
Ya. No good moves for here in that trade. Who wants polka anyway.
3.) 24 Feb 2018 02:45:29
I like the Edmonton trade idea. Both Letestu and Maroon are rumoured to be trade bait. I think Edmonton will want more though. You might have to sharpen the pencil just a bit more in that trade. Maroon > Leivo and Letestu is worth more than Carrick. Edmonton has made a lot of bad trades in the past, but trading Marion for a lesser player like Leivo is one I think even they are smart enough to avoid.
21 Feb 2018 19:03:19
NSH:
James Van Riemsdyk (LW), UFA
Roman Polák (RD), UFA
TOR:
3rd Round Draft Pick, 2018
1st Round Draft Pick, 2019
Leafs shed cap space and gain an additional high draft pick for 2019. While Nashville gains a top-six winger for this years playoffs.
DET:
Matt Martin (RW), UFA
3rd Round Draft Pick, 2018
7th Round Draft Pick, 2018 (ANA)
TOR:
6th Round Draft Pick, 2018 (MTL)
4th Round Draft Pick, 2019
Leafs swap reasonable draft picks with Detriot in order to have them take Matt Martin off their hands.
ARI:
Josh Leivo (LW), RFA
Connor Carrick (RD), RFA
2nd Round Draft Pick, 2018 (SJS)
2nd Round Draft Pick, 2019
4th Round Draft Pick, 2019
TOR:
Niklas Hjalmarsson (L-RD), UFA
3rd Round Draft Pick, 2019
Leafs secure another Stanley Cup veteran defenceman for their own playoff run. Arizona gains young prospects and draft picks to bolster the future roster.
2017-18 Playoffs:
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Marner
Komarov-Bozak-Brown
Johnsson-Moore-Kapanen
Aaltonen
Rielly-Hjalmarsson
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Hainsey
Holl
1.) 22 Feb 2018 01:07:19
#1. Nashville is at cap limit, so salary would have to be heading back to Leafs in order to balance the books.
#2. Martin isn’t a UFA, and Detroit doesn’t want him.
#3. Hjalmarsson isn’t a UFA, and Leafs don’t want him.
2.) 22 Feb 2018 04:55:34
You ave traded away the only 2 RHD the Leafs have. not that much but they are the only two.
3.) 22 Feb 2018 07:59:27
@LeafsGM, Yeah, the Predators would need to shed some cap space by either sending a contract back to Toronto or eating some of JVR's contract. Either way, this deal would be a lot better than what the Rangers would ask for Nash.
As for Martin and Hjalmarsson, you may want to do your due diligence as a GM better seeing that both players are classified as UFA's (Unrestricted Free Agent) .
Detriot and Arizona are looking for draft picks so - never say never when it comes to making a deal that wouldn't hamper either team's future.
4.) 23 Feb 2018 08:15:01
Go back to cap friendly and read a little closer bud.
16 Feb 2018 17:37:25
DET:
Matt Martin (RW), UFA
Frédérik Gauthier (C), RFA
Conner Carrick (RD), RFA
1st Round Draft Pick, 2018
3rd Round Draft Pick, 2019
TOR:
Mike Green (RD), UFA
2nd Round Draft Pick, 2019
Detriot gets a young right-handed defenceman and a potential 4th line centre along with Matt Martin as a mere salary dump -
all of which are at a manageable cap rate. Detriot also secures draft picks which they ultimately want. Leafs add another veteran defenceman who should stay in the lineup full-time for the playoffs.
NYR:
Josh Leivo (RW), RFA
Andrew Nielsen (LD), RFA
2nd Round Draft Pick, 2018 (SJS)
TOR:
Rick Nash (LW), UFA
New York secures cheap prospects upfront and on the blueline for next year. Leafs add a veteran power forward who has played under Babcock before and can squeeze more offence out of for the playoffs. Rick Nash is also better defensively than JVR is and can throw his weight around more.
NSH:
James Van Riemsdyk (LW), UFA
TOR:
1st Round Draft Pick, 2018
Nashville gains a good player to add to an already bolstered lineup going into the playoffs. Leafs gain a high draft pick for a player who will most likely be too expensive sign in the offseason. So it makes sense to get something for him - not to mention make up for the lost draft pick with Detriot.
2017-18 Playoffs:
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Marner
Nash-Bozak-Brown
Komarov-Moore-Kapanen
Aaltonen
Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Green
Polák
These trade help the Leafs to shed much need cap space going into the 2018-19 season while still making them competitive for this years playoffs.
1.) 16 Feb 2018 17:57:35
Matt Martin. And Leivo are not UFA or RFA and leafs zero interest in Nash
Nash or green
Leafs zero interest
Look players with term 4 leafs and they don't want forwards except at center ice.
2.) 16 Feb 2018 18:51:26
Way too much for Green!
TOR: Bozak and Leivo
CLB: Jenner and 2nd 2018
Then.
TOR: JVR and CLB 2nd 2018
NYR: Nash
TOR: Carrick
VAN: Tanev.
3.) 16 Feb 2018 19:57:26
i said this earlier this week on one of the other posts
if ANY gm gives up 1st for green they should be fired on the spot lou included.
4.) 16 Feb 2018 20:07:39
Gotta agree with Mackin I wouldn’t make any of those trades, and I doubt Leafs would either. Leafs don’t want either Nash or Green. Leafs are giving up way too much. Especially for Green.
JVR for a 1st is good about right. Maybe squeeze a prospect in on that deal too to sweeten the deal up just enough and Leafs might do it.
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25 Feb 2018 02:18:22
Thank you, Kelly Hrudey for stating the obvious by calling out JVR's lack of backchecking during Saturday HNC game against Boston. This is the rubbish that annoys me about his game. Sure he gets a lot of tap-in goals, but the guy doesn't even use his size to drive hard to the net unlike smaller guys (i.e. Hyman, Kapanen). This is why he should be traded for as much as the Leafs can get for him. And then get another player either internally or externally (i.e. Maroon) who will actually grind during the playoffs.
1.) 25 Feb 2018 09:18:06
Kelly will be fired shortly.
2.) 25 Feb 2018 11:55:20
Have to agree with shanaplan.
I personally think they should go after Mcdonaugh and Evander Kane.
Trade JVR. They won't resign him anyway because he will ask for to much. Not sure who to trade him to though.
3.) 25 Feb 2018 22:01:43
Kelly should be fired. He hates the Leafs, and shouldn't be on HNIC; you know the TV show the Leafs and Habs keep afloat; year after year (with Don Cherry's help) .
Did he bring up "coaster" Nash and "team killer" Duchene, who are flat out lazy on the back check?
He has every right to attack a trade after it's been made, but to publicly interfere prior to a possible trade at the deadline, that should cost him his job.
Everyone has known JVR's positives and negatives for 9 years now. It's not news to anyone, including other GM's. Well, maybe Kelly.
You trade JVR to get back something for him. To get nothing for him and let him walk is just hurting the team for the sake of 1 playoff set.
Do you just throw out that 4 year old car after the warranties up in the 5th year or do you trade it in while it still has one? Do you put that car down when you try and sell it?
18 Feb 2023 02:14:51
The Hawks don’t have a player named Latterly or Lafferly. The Maple Leafs don’t have any players
hall Adderson Volt Holgremand Ingvall Reilly
Mc Brian Kamp or Jarkork.
It’s amazing you didn’t misspell your commas or periods.
What happens if we have another injury on our back end? Justin Holl has been very good this year, and his advanced metrics prove it. He is a big, strong, smooth skating, purk moving right handed defenseman, and those don’t grow on trees. His occasional brain farts can be forgiven in comparison to what he adds to the team.
Perhaps Keeth Petrobooties or Derick Snelgrin, Axle Skivies or Wayne Trayne Zlimmings. Hyden Drunk, Dick Abrucheeses? Let’s not forget Miko Kokopuffs or Noel Hoffinmayonaise, Seymon Der Argeseudtheidt from the Marly’s.
Your passion is admired and we’re all waiting for a trade to get excited about but please please please if you can’t spell their names correctly, stay in the press box.
18 Feb 2023 01:44:16
The Hawks don’t have a player named Latterly or Lafferly, the Maple leafs don’t have any players named hall, Adderson Volt or Holgremand. I am amazed you didn’t misspell your commas.
What happens if we suffer another injury on defence if Holl is gone?
Everybody bashes Holl, but he has very good metrics this year. He is a big puck moving d he’s a shot blocking machine and he’s the first defenceman over the boards on the pk.
Perhaps Skeves or Slimongs can play D? Maybe Petraboodles, Galshgren or Hyden Drunt?
Sometimes these trade proposals would have to be railed back in the to be called ridiculous.
It’s nice you have passion, but if you can’t spell Aron players names correctly, I think you should remain in the press box.
13 Mar 2018 22:26:06
@LeafsFuture. Why would Toronto's management team agree to relinquish 2018 draft pick (s) to Buffalo along with a bunch of player rights that will no longer be owned by the team after the season is over? Unless the Leafs sign JVR and Bozak this deal will never get done and should never be considered anyways.
03 Mar 2018 01:33:47
@LeafsFuture, I agree that Martin no longer fits within the team's progressive vision. But trading away Mr. Iron Man "Patrick Marleau" is not going to happen. Not by a long shot when he still averages 20-plus goals a year; is versatile, durability and dependable to coach/ play with.
JVR on the other hand - albeit a good hockey player lacks certain qualities that Marleau does (i. e. Speed and Back-Checking) . Plus he will want $6M per season to stay on the team and that would just handicap the teams younger LW core (i. e. Johnsson, Grundström, etc. ) who will be looking to break into the lineup next year. As for Komarov, he is a wildcard to stay.
02 Mar 2018 17:52:11
@Spider, I like your draft/ UFA targets for the 2018-19 starting line up, as its very similar to my earlier suggestion post. Jan Rutta would be a nice pick up for the buds as he would be much cheaper - albeit youthful commodity to have on the d-core. The Leafs could go even higher with Tavares and sign him to a $10.75M if they can keep Nylander's contract to $4.75-5M. But then again if it was an 8-year contract that would be a steal for the Leafs.
Side Note: I am sure that Habs fans would love to get a player like Tavares. Yet, I don't see why he would actually want to go to a team that has taken such big steps backwards while the Leafs are making modest steps forward. I mean if the Leafs advance to the second round of the playoffs that to me shows sustainable progress. And if I was JT, that's the type of team I would want to sign with to get closer to a cup.
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