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11 Feb 2017 06:24:59
I hope we don't trade JVR but, here's one I like:

Tor - JVR(retain 50%), Polak

Pit - Schultz, Pouliot, 2018 pick, Dupuis

Should fit under Pens cap. We retain on JVR to help. Take back LTIR salary with Dupuis, this is dead in the summer.

I had trouble evaluating Schultz and could decide what pick to add. What do you guys think?

Pens get JVR for another run at the cup... I didn't make the Kessel connection until after I wrote this out.

Polak gets another chance eating some minutes on a contender.

They give up Schultz who is a RFA in summer. He's been great and should be easy to sign to a reasonable contract. We also get a young promising D they can't fit into their roster.

Rmckeen

1.) 11 Feb 2017 12:51:53
I think we might get Shultz in the summer? Would be a good deal for both though.


2.) 11 Feb 2017 13:16:20
No way from leafs.


3.) 11 Feb 2017 15:21:16
If u r trading jvr u shouldn't have to retain anything. He has a very manageable/ appealing cap hit for other teams.

If teams want him who have cap issues, let them make concessions or other moves to fit him not leafs.


4.) 11 Feb 2017 16:53:43
1) If you make this trade, you are offering Vegas to take their pick of Carrick, Schultz, and Pouliot, of which the Leafs can only protect 1.

Then you have to re-sign Shultz (assuming you protect him) and either Carrick or Pouliot is off to the Knights. You have to sign Pouliot if you protect him (RFA) .

So no to the deal prior to the draft. And no to the deal without working out an extension for both D's prior to the trade.

2) Agree with Rocket;

Arguably, the Pens will be moving Fluery prior to the expn draft. That will give them 5.7 in cap space. No need to pay for JVR to play in Pittsburgh.

In your deal you are giving 2.1 M (JVR) and then 3.75 M again with Dupuis? for a total of 5.85 M. Polak's salary roughly balances the 2 Dmen.

So you are paying JVR's entire salary and then some (an extra 1.6M for nothing)

3) Not impressed with Pouliot; Seemed on track 2014, showed little improvement 2015, and now is playing sub par to those years. Maybe he's PO'd at not making the team; but would rather others.

4) We have no real need to move JVR and he will probably be extended by the Leafs. As much as we would like to trade him for that elusive elite RHD in a blockbuster deal; it's probably not going to happen.

He's getting better with Marner every game and you can put him on the LW of any line with little drop off, making him invaluable at playoff time.

5) Your are targeting the right type of players (young Dmen), but this is only an average return for JVR. Now sometimes that's all you can get; but we don't have to trade him this year.

None of the player returned here are top notch, and the pick is undetermined; but even at a 1st it's value is low being close to at second (30th if they win again) .

Overall, better returns, with less money to juice the deal, can be made elsewhere.


5.) 12 Feb 2017 00:24:59
I was thinking with JVR gone we could go 4-4-1. That only leaves Pouliot out. He can't be exposed tho d/ t his games played. We have to give up someone.

I agree that I'd prefer not to retain. I just couldn't get it under their cap. If they did trade fleury than this trade wouldn't make sense. I'd still like to see something centerig JVR and Schultz tho.

I'm going to be watching Schultz. He seems to be on the verge of a break out. He could be a good player to have while he's cheap. Easy to resign at a reasonable rate.

I don't think we'll trade JVR but, there is a lot of reasons why he could be dealt. A LW will also be easier to replace than a d via draft. Schultz is under rated imo. Pouliot could be a nice surprise if given the chance and change of scenery.

But still. let's just keep JVR.


6.) 12 Feb 2017 17:47:32
Well said Rocket9 and Lab16.I commend your train of thought!


 

 

23 Jan 2017 06:43:23
Tor - Bozak, Kapanen
Min - Kaprizov, Eriksson Ek

Tor - JVR, Nielson
Ana - Theodore, Manson, 2018 1st

Tor - Polak, Hunwick (50% retained for both)
Was - 2017 2nd, 2018 2nd

These trades would really hurt any playoff run this year but, will be great for the future. Kaprizov would have to agree to play in NHL. A lot of futures from Anaheim and they get their top LW, Nielson keeps the prospect pool strong. Wash has terrible defensive depth and Hunlak is a decent 5 and 6. Makes room for Theodore and Manson.

Hyman - Matthews - Brown
Kaprizov - Eriksson Ek - Marner
Komarov - Kadri - Nylander
Martin - Gauthier - Soshnikov

Reilly - Zeitsev
Gardiner - Carrick
Theodore - Manson

Rmckeen

1.) 23 Jan 2017 14:08:34
Wild says no


2.) 23 Jan 2017 17:34:24
Why do you think that? Kap and ek nearly cancel out. Wild need centre depth and bozak is a good option and worth a swim for Kaprizov. He'll likely never play in NHL tho


3.) 24 Jan 2017 01:23:52
Rmkeen

We have so many talented foward prospects and we need more young talent on RD


4.) 24 Jan 2017 02:33:07
Did you read my trade? It brings back a young LHD, RHD, LW and Center. With that it trade an older centre, LW, LHD and RHD. I'd agree that we could add a third to the wild trade though.


 

 

19 Jan 2017 04:25:07
Leafs - Panthers

Carrick, Kapanen, 2017 2nd

for

Ekblad

Ekblad is having an off year. He's only 20 and it's bound to happen when your a defender that young in the NHL. He would replace Carrick in the line up. Florida can feel at ease with carrick on their third pairing (where ekblad currently plays), a top prospect in Kapanen and a shot at this years crap chute. It's just a matter of time until Ekblad shows what he is. a franchise defensemen.

But, let's be realistic. Ekblad could literally drop his pants and take a dump at centre ice and Florida still wouldn't trade him.

Rmckeen

1.) 19 Jan 2017 08:00:47
I don't even know why you would post something like this. Literally the most lopsided trade I have ever seen in my entire life. If you honestly think that Kapanen, Carrick and a 2nd is getting you Aaron Ekblad then you have something wrong with you. I don't care what kind of year he is having. He's still Aaron Ekblad, he's still 20 years old, he's still a right handed shot and he's still an elite defenseman.

That's the equivelant of trading Morgan Rielly for a potato chip


2.) 19 Jan 2017 09:54:42
Rmckeen

That's insane and your just trying to put stupid rumours up.


3.) 19 Jan 2017 10:56:16
Not sure what I worse the proposal or the reply from mackin. lol


4.) 19 Jan 2017 12:22:12
As good as Ekblad is, I would be weary of his concussion issue. I hope he doesn't end up like Pronger with the concussion thing.


5.) 19 Jan 2017 13:28:25
Mph1

Ekblad isn't 21 til next month a first overall pic and he has 8 goals in 47 games. You call a 20 year old having down year. What's this guy going to be at 25 mph 1 you are a idiot.


6.) 19 Jan 2017 14:42:32
Rmckeen

Ok I'll take a page out of your book "would you trade Reilly for that"? Your even worse!


7.) 19 Jan 2017 17:48:22
aaron eklad will not be getting traded.


 

 

17 Jan 2017 08:18:43
Leafs - Flames

Calgary - Rasmus Andersson

Toronto - Kasperi Kapanen

Time to exchange some of our talent up front and shore up our defence. We have both Kap and Bracco coming up eventually and frankly, there isn't room for both. Andersson is a solid stay at home RHD with a high ceiling. I had this initially written out with Bracco and a 3rd going over. But, the flames would likely want a prospect they could potentially throw right into their line up.

Rmckeen

1.) 17 Jan 2017 09:07:10
Kapanan projects as top 6 forward. What is Anderson maybe nothing no thanks


2.) 17 Jan 2017 09:14:02
Anderson is very high plus minus but I'm not convinced of anything. Andrew Neilson better stats but we don't know what he is yet. Defensive prospects are tricky and you can't move Kapanan until your sure your getting ace prospect back.


3.) 17 Jan 2017 16:31:27
No don't trade KAPANEN, flames don't need him they are making the playoffs. If your going for ANDERSSON you trade a vet


4.) 17 Jan 2017 18:56:14
David, don't speak about what you don't know. Andersson would walk in as our top defense prospect. If you're only looking at his point totals, that's your first problem. We have Two top prospects, both are RW. We already have 4 rookies playing RW. We don't have room for them and it only makes sense to trade from a position of strength to gain a defensive prospect we desperately lack.

Goats, look at the flames line up. Kapanen would likely walk right into their line up. Prospects WILL BE TRADED.


5.) 17 Jan 2017 19:01:10
Also, to add. Dermott and Nielsen are both LHD. We need RHD, like Andersson.


6.) 17 Jan 2017 19:45:33
He might limp into the lineup if he were to be traded.
After the game this past weekend against Syracuse, Kapanen is out due to injury.
According to the Marlies coach, could be a lengthy time to recover.


7.) 17 Jan 2017 20:11:08
Kapanen for Rasmus Andersson
Done, done and done. Deal, take it any day of the weak.


8.) 17 Jan 2017 21:35:56
Very true Kirky, I wasn't taking that into consideration.


 

 

10 Jan 2017 00:06:54
Leafs - JVR (retained if necessary)

Wild - Eriksson Ek, Karill Kaprizov, 2018 1st

I posted a similar trade a bit ago, I think this is more refined. 2018 first instead of 2017 for a shot at Dahlin. Both prospects have high ceilings and can help our weak l side. Would have to retain or take back a salary dump for wild to fit under cap.

Rmckeen

1.) 10 Jan 2017 00:49:30
The wild wouldn't make this trade even if they didn't have to give toronto a pick, and toronto won't be in bottom 5 spot in 2018 to get dahlin.


2.) 10 Jan 2017 01:14:31
Way too much for JVR. He's overrated


3.) 10 Jan 2017 01:16:53
I like your trade but IDK if minny would do it


4.) 10 Jan 2017 06:09:17
Leafs would do this deal in a second. Don't think the wild would though.


 

 

 

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27 Jan 2017 04:24:41
Does anyone know anything about Jan Kovar of the KHL? He's a 26 yo centre who appears to be an incredible player. I can't find anything about his contract but with how the KHL is doing I'm sure an NHL team could equal it at least.

Rmckeen

1.) 27 Jan 2017 20:32:18
Can't find anything on his contract but he's probably making arouns 600K-1M a year. Did you find stats on him? Hockeydb. com is great for finding stats


2.) 28 Jan 2017 01:40:54
5"11". 210 lb. centre who has scored at about a PPG in the KHL. Might be worth bring in on a 2-way contract and see how the translates to the AHL/ NHL. Leafs are weak on centre prospects.


3.) 28 Jan 2017 02:11:43
He's put up great KHL numbers year after year. I imagine he just doesn't want to play in the NHL.


4.) 30 Jan 2017 03:46:10
leafs are interested in Vladimir tkachyov. He is 21 years old, under sized winger playing in the khl. He put up ppg numbers in the QMJHL and now has 39 points in 45 games in the khl


5.) 30 Jan 2017 08:00:48
Sometimes Russian players don't want to play NHL. Leafs better look after Zaitsev because if they low ball him he will go KHL. I don't mess with him I offer 6 years 5 million per same as Reilly.


 

 

 

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23 Mar 2017 05:24:25
Lose Fehr or Carrick? You mean say good bye to Carrick. Forget trading, pick a first round D and see where our young D is next year. Rielly and Carrick are 22, they will only get better with time. Rielly will break out. did I mention he's only 22? Carrick carried the marlies last year in the playoffs and he's proving he can transition smoothly. Zaitsev has only got better all season, he was the best D the KHL had. He will get much better. Gardiner has broken out offensively. If Carrick continues to develop like he has been they will be a very effective unit.

There is also no reason for Winnipeg to trade their young stud d when they hope to make the playoffs in the coming years. Trouba would be much more expensive than your offer.

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21 Mar 2017 04:02:56
David this is ridiculous. Even if you think Gagner is better than Bozak, why give Bozak away for free? Makes zero sense.

Bozak is more important to this team than people lead on. We aren't selling any more, that was made clear when both Hunwick and Polak got past the deadline. Bozak is essential to this teams success right now and likely next year. If he gets traded I bet it's next years trade deadline. I wouldn't doubt they resign him to a team friendly deal.

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18 Mar 2017 19:57:19
He won't play until next year. We don't have any contract room so his deal won't start until next season. He's a good steal, I'll be curious to see if his talent translates to NHL.

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11 Mar 2017 16:54:31
Lab said 'he may not make the NHL'. Which is true, you guys always grade players so high and assume their skills will carry over to the NHL. You're example, Bracco, has never played hockey against men. He's smaller than Marner. He could turn out to be great in NHL, maybe he never finds his game at the AHL, we don't know. In your trade we're giving up an elite NHL LW for players we don't even know will make our roster. Lab is right, this is garbage.

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10 Mar 2017 23:12:31
I find it hilarious that someone with the screen name 'cheeseburger phil' is evaluating a players ability to play defence.

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24 Apr 2017 04:29:39
I'd say they are pretty close. Although, JVR will be a little older and proven than lucic was when he was traded to LA. JVR is better offensively, Lucic is better defensively. I'd give JVR a slight edge just because he will be more proven than Lucic was. JVR is worth 6 mill a year. I think we will resign him at 5.5 for 5.

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21 Apr 2017 18:11:19
I'm not sold on the 7 yrs but as long his AAV stays around 4-4.5 then that's fine with me. He has lots of room to grow and has already made a good transition. You have to look at Rielly and Zaitsevs usage, not their plus minus. That's a dead stat. They play against the best players most often, giving Gardiner the freedom to do work. He's a decent top 4 imo with a high ceiling. That contract could really up off in a few years.

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20 Apr 2017 21:00:07
Based on that evaluation Rielly is also terrible and we'd better get him off the books.

It's his first year in the NHL, relax. Cherry is going senile.

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24 Mar 2017 05:32:06
You made one young, talented RHD just disappear. Carricks contract isn't up until next summer. He will likely be much better than stone.

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03 Mar 2017 01:22:48
If you count up all of the playoff experience of everyone you listed, it's less than Boyle alone. The playoffs are a different game and our team didn't have any experience. Unless you count Polak lol.

Nylander and Marner are not going anywhere. I didn't reference anything about us trading them, picks or prospects for a RHD. But now that you brought it up, we have an abdunence of RW prospects. With Leivo looking like an NHL hockey player there are 6 people ahead of Kapanen. Trade him. If I had to guess I'd say it would be a JVR/ Kap combo to a team in dire need of LW scoring and happen to have an abundance of dmen with the expansion looming. Anaheim, in the summer.

Prospect is an arbitrary term. Matthews, Nylander and Marner are still techniqually prospects until there rookie season is over. Kap, Bracco, Brooks and Grundstrom are tearing it up this year. Nielson, Greenway and Dermott are LHD. We have Woll, but he'll be developing for a couple years. But we just have this massive hole at RHD from the leafs to the marlies. I hope they acquire a top 4 RHD in summer and draft dmen.

Most scouts said Marner was too small. Scouts are only graded on how many prospects they are right about, if they were graded on how many they were wrong about it would paint a different picture. Hunter does have a great track record but, last years draft left a bad taste in my mouth. Other than Matthews, I really don't know what they were doing.

We unimimously had the #1 list of prospects prior to this season, all but one of our own picks and 5 from other teams over this season and next. All while recently draining our farm by playing 9 rookies this year and fighting for a playoff spot. We are locked stocked and loaded.

We traded away another teams 1st pick. For Andersen. You can't complain about that.

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