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24 May 2017 15:34:56
It's no secret but i believe it's the best case scenario for the Leafs. It instantly helps both teams and fills an area of need for both parties! Win win situation!
None of this trading the farm for a top 4 defenders! Patience is the key to building a championship team so it just isn't smart trading prospects before u get a good idea of what they bring to the table! As I read in an artical I would expose Bozak to the expansion draft over prospects like Leivo, Rychel or Leipsic. Its way to risky to lose one of the 3. If not trade bozak, komorov, Martin for prospects and picks.
Therefore the trade below makes the most sense for both sides and frees up a spot for one of the three prospects i mentioned above.

DUCKS-JVR

TML- Manson

Nothing more nothing less! JVR would slot in nicely with the ducks top 6 and I believe Manson's defensively sound physical game with a little offensive touch would help bring Rielly game to the next level!

I'd like to see this line up in the near future!

32)Leivo (34)Matthews (97)Bracco
(28)Kapenen (29)Nylander (16)Marner
(36)Rychel (43)Kadri (12)Brown
(11)Hyman (24)Boyle (26)Soshnikov 

(44)Rielly (64)Manson
(51) Gardiner (22) Zaitsev
(57)Dermott (8) Carrick
(55)Borgman

Extras: Nielson and Rosen

(1)Andersen

Some may agree or disagree but it makes sense and is the smartest move to make with out trading the farm. In Lou I trust!

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1.) 24 May 2017 16:40:34
This is pucking dumb.


2.) 24 May 2017 17:01:04
Looks pretty good. I would switch Hyman with Rychel because of experience. Let Rychel get his feet wet on the 4th. I also wouldn't assume the Swede d-men are there immediately.
I would also like to see another RHD somehow.


3.) 24 May 2017 17:43:19
What's pucking dumb about it big Willy? Elaberate plz!


4.) 24 May 2017 22:38:45
JVR is worth more than Manson on any day, and if that is Anaheim's asking price then the Leafs would walk away after they finish laughing!


5.) 25 May 2017 14:03:28
Then they would laugh some more.

The deal fails to take into account that JVR is worth a lot more than Manson to most everyone.

The deal fails to take into account, the expn. draft.

The deal fails to take into account the fact that the Ducks have no cap space for 2 years and taking on JVR's contract will prevent them from doing just about anything else. If they can even manage it as is.

It's fan boy in nature to add Bracco (0 NHL games) to Matthews line, so Nylander can play center and take Marner (the better player) off his own line just to make Nylander look better. Marner can stay on his own line.

Boyle isn't worth the money he will be asking.

I suppose Martin and Leo just evaporated. Dermott is not ready. Rosen will play on the 3rd pair. Borgman will take at least a year.

The deal and your lineups are just childish fantasy.


6.) 25 May 2017 15:13:57
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This deal can't happen simply because Ducks have no cap space for JVR.


7.) 26 May 2017 11:16:19
Lab16, if you read what I wrote i said "I'd like to see that line up in the near future"! Not saying BRACCO makes the leafs next yr but in the NEAR FUTURE! Manson is a beast and just getting into his prime! If you watched him in the playoffs you would understand what I'm talking about. He's a great shut down d man with grit.

If Taylor hall gets you Larsson jvr would be about right for a player like Manson coming into his prime. What people like yourself seem to not put into account is this site is for people to express what they would like too see happen with the leafs. As we all know no one ever really agrees with what anyone writes on here.

Enlighten us with your superior knowledge about what players are worth and other teams cap situations. Dermott has the best chance too make the leafs out of camp on D! Google him and read how highly management thinks of him and his play this yr! If u think that's childish fantasy then your a retard! Pretty sure your the one that said Nylander is overrated too and should be traded. Stop bashing people and post a trade!


8.) 27 May 2017 17:13:05
How near is the future 1,2 4 years, maybe never. That is fantasy.

I don't overate Manson. I've watched him for 2 years now. The Ducks and Leafs have been good trading partners for some time now and it's important to be aware of player movement, rules, drafts, cap management and development and not just react to trends you see when using Google.

The Leafs didn't get Rosen to have him play on the Marlies. I like Dermott, but he's not ready, and had a shortened season. Maybe in another year. I want Neilsen to come up because he presents the package we want in a Dman. He may take another year and his skating has to improve (he has the summer) . I feel he will improve best at this level, maybe even as the 7th; as he can handle the punishment.

Yes, everyone gets to put forth their view, but it has to be based in reality or it will get criticized (someone's view) . You tell people they don't know the game, or don't watch hockey and so on far too often. You have taken a lot of abuse for a huge number of lame trades, so I can see why you are defensive. Maybe you should try to make a deal that can actually work; not what you fantasize about.

Nylander is not playing center this year or next, and may never under Babcock. Where are you going to put Brooks? He will make this team as soon as Bozak is traded. Fantastic heart and talent.

So, you get your information through Google searches. That's just lovely. You just made my day. I may laugh into next week. It's now apparent where your get your player evaluation from.

If you think "childish fantasy" is bashing you, it's not! It's dead on accurate. JVR >>> Manson. And Nylander still can't play a two way game, or cover his man when it counts, making him a poor choice for a center. (Check the Washington/ Leaf game tapes) Hint: In overtime.

I didn't attack you, I just criticized your trade and had a little fun. You pretty much as usual; did all the damage to yourself.

Try posting a deal for the upcoming expansion draft! A real event! And please stop standing in front of the mirror when thinking of names to call other people.


 

 

22 Feb 2017 13:32:55
AVES- JVR

TML- Landeskog

This gives the Aves a more offensively gifted big winger in JVR and TML adds some more skill and toughness that they desperately need in the top six.
A line of Landeskog Matthews Hyman would be pretty dangerous to move forward with for the future. Some may agree or disagree with this trade but from a value stand point its very close. The Aves get the edge because JVR is the better player in the deal so far.
This takes care of a need they need in the top six and that's skill with toughness. We need another Wendel Clark type player.
Also would like for Nylander to get his defensive game in check and move to C.
I know people rather trade JVR for help on D but just sign Shattenkirk in the summer for nothing but money and keep our assets. (I. e Kapenen, Leipsic, Bracco, Timishov etc) I believe Nielson Dermott and Greenway all have top 4 potential. Developed from within!

Sign Shattenkirk in the summer for 4 yrs!

Trade Bozak for draft picks!

Line up I'd like to see!

Landeskog Matthews Hyman
Leivo Nylander Marner
Brown Kadri Komorov
Martin Geautier Soshnikov

Rielly Shattenkirk
Gardiner Carrick
Nielson Zaitsev
Dermott Marchenko

Andersen.

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1.) 22 Feb 2017 14:21:47
No from Avs. They get older not younger which goes against the idea of a "rebuild"


2.) 22 Feb 2017 15:06:51
From a Toronto perspective . I like it.


3.) 23 Feb 2017 00:06:12
Try trading a couple of the 13 or so RW'rs we have (which are younger and what the Av's want) instead of the best LW we have who is still young enough for another 7 years.

Xcing is right here, in the fact they want to rebuild with youth. They need to dump anyone over 25 and dump as much salary as they can. They can trade youth as long as they are getting more youth back.

Otherwise they are just repeating the Leafs mistakes of rebuilds past.


 

 

21 Aug 2016 03:08:23
Blues-JVR

TML-SHATTENKIRK

Fair Trade and helps both sides

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1.) 21 Aug 2016 06:36:53
Fair trade huh. ok go back to sleep


2.) 21 Aug 2016 14:23:09
JVR for a top prospect and a high draft choice is what St.L would give up. The Blues are getting older and need to make a run for the cup this year. So they won't want to give up a key piece, even though JVR would help them at this time.


3.) 21 Aug 2016 20:48:41
I'd rather have jvr. Shatt will be grossly overpaid soon. He's a good #3 defender. No more.


4.) 23 Aug 2016 05:08:59
Go for Parayko instead


 

 

02 Jul 2016 18:15:32
In a perfect world

Aves- JVR, Bozak , Marincin, Bernier

TML - Landeskog, Berrie

Landeskog Matthews Marner
Brown Kadri Nylander
Hyman Komorov Rychel
Martin Geautier Soshnikov

Rielly Barrie
Gardiner Zaitsev
Dermott Carrick
Neilson

Andersen
Sparks

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1.) 02 Jul 2016 21:55:50
Not enough from leafs


 

 

30 Jun 2016 12:33:11
After that lopsided trade the Devils got for Larson who knows what's fair value for a top 2 defender like Shattenkirk but here's what I'd offer.

TML - Shattenkirk

Blues- JVR, bozak,

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1.) 30 Jun 2016 15:26:05
not worth hold onto jvr move him for picks next year try to pick up a top end defensemen with the pick you get for him and presumably the high pick the leafs will have should provide options. I don't see shattenkirk as a #


2.) 30 Jun 2016 15:31:45
Nah doesn't make sense I don't see shattenkirk as a #1 guy so not worth it. Flip jvr for a high pick next year and use the leafs pick and that and take a shot on two d which could hopefully play in 1-2 years.


3.) 01 Jul 2016 11:31:13
face it. it's a horrible year to be in need of a top 4 dman, becuase the market for one is insane. see Taylor Hall trade. be patient and don't over pay. not giving JVR for a 3rd pairing D or an aging top 4 guy. be patient, not winning the cup in 2016 no matter Dman you get. Get Lovejoy or similar type guy on reasonable two year deal so you have an NHL calibre Dman, and be patient.


 

 

 

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22 May 2017 19:16:23
I'm just curious but where did all the Nylander haters go on this site? I remember one person in particular that loved bashing him and throwing him in trades calling him overrated lol! That just goes to show the knowledge of most of the people posting on this site have about hockey and the players that play it! The hype is REAL about the leafs BIG THREE! I know other teams are real worried about what's to come with this Leafs team! can't wait too see how deep they go next year! If we had the Senators easy road ti the semis it would be us there and not them! Go Leafs Go!

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1.) 26 May 2017 02:19:49
Stupid post. There are no Nylander haters here. Just fan boys like you. No one, including myself has ever put down his offense. And he has performed well to date in that reguard.

His defense is still a horror story. Check out the 4th or 5th game in OT and see who blew his assignment on Washington's LHD who scored the winner. I wonder who it was?

He doesn't back check, throw checks, block shots, steal pucks in any zone, would get destroyed in a fight, and is one concussion away from a limited career.

I'd still trade him for Tkachuk or a whole host of other great young players and the team would be much better for it.

There's more than offense to the game. You should learn that.


2.) 27 May 2017 01:21:04
Nylander could be one of the top offensive players in the league for years to come! And don't worry about that other stuff, it won't happen on Babs watch!


 

 

27 Mar 2017 13:53:48
With all these crazy trades I read on here the only real logical trade to be done in the summer is JVR for D help. They need to make space for Leivo or let him flourish elsewhere because he's just too good to be sitting in the press box. I like JVR but if u can get a simular player for cheaper that obviously makes more sense.
We don't need anymore wingers like Davidmackin repeatedly keeps posting. We need one more true top 4 defender and that's it. We have all the wingers any team could dream of with Leivo Kapenen Leipsic Rychel Bracco Korshkov Timishov to name a few.

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24 Mar 2017 12:44:33
Where all u Nylander haters go? I won't call names but I remember a few of u that were sold on trading him for D help because he apparently wasn't living up to YOUR expectations. Kids a gem like I said then and all yall are seeing! All I hear is crickets now lol! Another reason why this site is flooded with people with no knowledge about skill and players. GO LEAFS GO!

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1.) 28 Mar 2017 02:35:28
So agree with you. You do not trade away talented, young players that are cost controlled for expensive, aging veterans that was so popular here earlier. That is not how you build a team that will contend for years. Next up, let's kill the "trade Kapanen" rumors. He is the replacement for Nylander when he moves to centre and he will eventually move there. The Leafs are doing a great job grooming him for the transition (maybe as soon as next year), similar to what they did with Kadri and we know how that has turned out.


 

 

30 Jun 2016 17:50:01
Backes would be a good addition. His leadership and play would set a great example for the kids.

Komorov Backes Soshnikov line would be the most hated line in hockey.

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15 May 2016 22:46:35
Would love to see the new look leafs looking like this

Vessey Stamkos Marner
JVR Matthews Nylander
Brown Kadri Komorov
Hyman Geautier Soshnikov

Rielly Zaitsev
Gardiner Carrick
Dermott Harrington
Neilson

Bibeau
Bernier

I would like to add some more size on the back end and upgrade in net but that offense is the kind that wins championships. Four solid lines!

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30 May 2017 17:34:02
If that's the cost for him or any d man the leafs should hang up the phone! Build from within then or find gems overseas like Zaitsev. We have enough offensive d man already! Faulk is good but we need a defensively sound d man!

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30 May 2017 17:22:21
I agree Nylander should be a center. Once Bozak is gone I bet he will be!

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26 May 2017 11:16:19
Lab16, if you read what I wrote i said "I'd like to see that line up in the near future"! Not saying BRACCO makes the leafs next yr but in the NEAR FUTURE! Manson is a beast and just getting into his prime! If you watched him in the playoffs you would understand what I'm talking about. He's a great shut down d man with grit.

If Taylor hall gets you Larsson jvr would be about right for a player like Manson coming into his prime. What people like yourself seem to not put into account is this site is for people to express what they would like too see happen with the leafs. As we all know no one ever really agrees with what anyone writes on here.

Enlighten us with your superior knowledge about what players are worth and other teams cap situations. Dermott has the best chance too make the leafs out of camp on D! Google him and read how highly management thinks of him and his play this yr! If u think that's childish fantasy then your a retard! Pretty sure your the one that said Nylander is overrated too and should be traded. Stop bashing people and post a trade!

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26 May 2017 02:10:41
Nylander for Tkachuk? Boy oh boy thank God u not the gm! Tkachuk is good but not for a future super star like nylander.

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26 May 2017 01:42:26
That won't stop them from getting delt if they were ever going to be.

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