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05 Jun 2017 21:31:12
Islanders trade Hamonic and 2017 2nd to Leafs for JVR and 2017 5th
22 May 2017 20:06:11
Leafs trade JVR, Leipsic and 2017 4th to Coyotes for 2017 1st (7th overall) and Crouse
Leafs draft Makar/Liljegren and Foote/Valimaki
Sign Boyle 3 years 8.25 Mil. (2.75 Per)
Sign Franson 1 year 1.5 Mil.
Maybe Franson can find his game, if not it's only a year and he's a right shot depth D. Boyle was pretty solid and with Goat going down there's not much in the pipeline to take that 4th C position.
Obviously I'm also hoping the Leafs can package some of their forward depth in a trade for a Dman. I think like most Leaf fans I'm hoping for Manson but Vatanen maybe more realistic at this point. Maybe Brodin or Dumba out of Minny. Leafs will probably have to part with exempt players tho which means sadly Kapanen may have to go. Not sure Leafs are in a position to be moving 1st rounders yet but that maybe an option. Point is, I'm starting to get the feeling JVR isn't going to be the main piece in a trade for an established top 4 Dman.
1.) 22 May 2017 20:25:08
I think he's the main piece in a trade but by myself he's not getting a top 4 defenseman. Definitely going to take more.
2.) 22 May 2017 20:53:36
Fan,
Hopefully you're right, I'm pretty high on Kapanen and wouldn't want to see the Leafs part ways with him just yet. There's definitely going to be a logjam of wingers though, especially on the right side. I think Bracco will be a top 6 winger somewhere down the line too so Toronto has an embarrassment of riches At forward that they'll need to parlay into some talent on the blue line eventually. If a package around JVR can get us a Manson or Montour or Dumba I'm all for it.
3.) 22 May 2017 23:03:50
I think Larson is overated - avg OHL totals and did poorly this year with the Yotes. - No thanks. Clearly overated, and a 1st round bust.
You need to change the deal to the 1st and Dvorak.
Franson will not come to the Leafs, he's 29 and still hasn't mastered defence. Lou won't let that happen.
Boyle is too expensive for what he can still bring to the game. Fehr is already under contract and can play center; as can Smith, Hyman, Moore, Griffith, Willie Nye, Marner and Aaltonen.
And we can just trade if we have to for a 4th line specialist that's a lot cheaper than Boyle.
4.) 23 May 2017 01:42:00
Lab
IDK who "Larson" is? I'm assuming "Lawson"?
5.) 23 May 2017 01:52:42
why do the coyotes need jvr stupid trade.
6.) 23 May 2017 03:13:55
Boyle played really well for Toronto. Maybe the contract in term and money is a bit too much but he's certainly worth resigning. And jvr doesn't get the 7th and Dvorak. Complete over valuation of jvr.
7.) 23 May 2017 11:58:28
The Leafs are certainly a team that can afford a higher price tag for Boyle. Just not long term, no more than 2 or 3 years.
8.) 23 May 2017 13:23:06
@ Goat.
Yep was a typo.
01 Mar 2017 05:50:47
Leafs trade JVR, Hunwick and 2018 4th to Anaheim for Manson, Ritchie and 2017 1st
Trade Bozak, Gardiner and 2017 1st to Avalanche for Duchene, Grigorenko and 2018 3rd
Trade Valiev and 2018 2nd to Minnesota for Brodin
Sign Zaitsev
Sign Boyle
Sign Alzner
Hyman Matthews Brown
Ritchie Duchene Marner
Komarov Kadri Nylander
Martin Boyle Soshnikov
Alzner Zaitsev
Rielly Manson
Brodin Carrick
Andersen
Extras: Gauthier, Leivo, Grigorkenko
1.) 01 Mar 2017 06:18:10
Oh don't we wish Lou could pull off trades like this. He would be the Man.
Be realistic.
2.) 01 Mar 2017 13:46:49
These are realistic. Brodin will be lost in the expansion draft for nothing unless Minny wants to expose Dumba or some of their forwards which isn't happening. Get something for him now, Valiev is a decent prospect and a 2nd is decent value
For Duchene, there's no reason to give up anything more than that package. Gardiner is a top 4 D, Bozak played his college hockey in Denver and is a solid 3rd line center who can win you face offs and our first will be in the teens or early 20s. Grigorenko is a toss in because he'll probably be lost in the expansion draft. He has little to no value. Duchene is not worth more than that package. Anyone who thinks he is is overvaluing him.
As for the JVR trade, that proposal and different forms of it have been floating around for months. Anaheim is the most logical choice for D. Manson is not an all star, Ritchie has not proven anything and the Ducks' first will be late 20s. JVR is worth a package close to that on his own. Add in a decent veteran D in Hunwick for their playoff run and a draft pick.
If anything, drop the pick coming back to the Leafs in the Duchene trade and make the pick coming back to the Leafs in the JVR trade a 5th or lower.
Anything more or less in these proposals puts the trade too heavily in one team's favour. It's no longer worth it for the Leafs to make the trade just so they can get a big name and excite some dummy in front of his computer.
3.) 01 Mar 2017 13:46:49
These are realistic. Brodin will be lost in the expansion draft for nothing unless Minny wants to expose Dumba or some of their forwards which isn't happening. Get something for him now, Valiev is a decent prospect and a 2nd is decent value
For Duchene, there's no reason to give up anything more than that package. Gardiner is a top 4 D, Bozak played his college hockey in Denver and is a solid 3rd line center who can win you face offs and our first will be in the teens or early 20s. Grigorenko is a toss in because he'll probably be lost in the expansion draft. He has little to no value. Duchene is not worth more than that package. Anyone who thinks he is is overvaluing him.
As for the JVR trade, that proposal and different forms of it have been floating around for months. Anaheim is the most logical choice for D. Manson is not an all star, Ritchie has not proven anything and the Ducks' first will be late 20s. JVR is worth a package close to that on his own. Add in a decent veteran D in Hunwick for their playoff run and a draft pick.
If anything, drop the pick coming back to the Leafs in the Duchene trade and make the pick coming back to the Leafs in the JVR trade a 5th or lower.
Anything more or less in these proposals puts the trade too heavily in one team's favour. It's no longer worth it for the Leafs to make the trade just so they can get a big name and excite some dummy in front of his computer.
21 Dec 2016 19:31:55
Trade JVR, Hunwick and Loov to Nashville for Ellis, Kamenev, 2017 1st and 2018 3rd.
1.) 21 Dec 2016 22:01:14
Too much from Toronto, see below.
2.) 21 Dec 2016 22:35:33
Wait, didn't see the 1st there. Yep, Maybe. JVR is worth maybe a little bit more than Ellis and the 1st, but beggars can't be choosers. Kamenev might just turn out well. Even without the 3rd.
3.) 25 Dec 2016 23:07:53
Really don't see preds moving Ellis.
27 Sep 2016 01:16:48
Leafs: JVR
Islanders: Strome, Dal Colle and 2017 3rd
Really like JVR being a Leaf but with his wicked contract and his size and skill his value is probably at a high right now. Unload him while you can get optimal return. Price should IMO be young roster player, top prospect and a draft pick. Strome still has untapped potential and Dal Colle may blossom into a replacement for JVR at left wing. Reasonable?
1.) 27 Sep 2016 13:51:20
If we unload JVR we have to get a a d-man back
2.) 27 Sep 2016 18:22:00
Change Dal Colle to Pulock and drop the pick but I doubt Islanders want to part with a young right shot D like Ryan
3.) 01 Oct 2016 17:26:12
Both teams have no cap space this year.
Tor: JVR, Holl, Leivo (5.62 M)
NYI: Pullock, Strome, and Chimera (5.75M)
The Islanders get JVR and two NHL ready prospects.
The Leafs get their RH Dman, take a chance on Strome, and Chimera can be used or traded.
And the cap works out for this year.
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02 May 2016 02:00:52
Leafs trade Holland, 2nd 2017 (TOR) and 2nd 2018 (SJ) to Tampa Bay for Vasilevskiy.
1.) 02 May 2016 03:19:43
I like it, but I don't know if it goes through.
09 Dec 2019 22:51:25
I like it. Liked your Manson trade too. Making the salary work for both teams these days is a challenge.
10 Jan 2018 02:37:07
Are you a Sens fan? This is the most lopsided trade proposal I’ve seen in quite a while. Karlsson is a remarkable talent but he’s not worth anywhere close to that package. And if a team is willing to pay anywhere near that much for him, it won’t be Toronto.
10 Jan 2018 02:32:57
Ridiculous. The only player on the Canucks roster that gets you near Marner or Nylander is Boeser and that’s not happening either. Stupid proposal.
10 Jul 2017 01:51:17
Nylander and Liljegren could end up being better than Mackinnon and Barrie. They're both you get and cheaper NOW. We need to stay the course and if you're giving up anything to get a top 4 D man it should be wing prospects and draft picks, not players who are integral to our roster or a player we just drafted a few weeks ago. Trade some picks and players like Soshnikov/ Bracco to bring in a better Dman ie. Tanev.
07 Jun 2017 21:17:34
Why not just give them Matthews and Marner while we're at it? Just terrible mate.
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