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02 Feb 2018 15:55:54
Let's face it the Leafs aren't going on a deep playoff run this year. And JVR probably doesn't fit in with Toronto's future plans.

To Toronto: Jordan Kyrou, 2018 1st

To Nashville: James Van Riemsdyk

Jordan Kyrou is averaging more than 2 points per game in the OHL and is a good 2 way center and the leafs lack centers. Then in the draft with the earlier pick which will probably be the Leafs draft a RHD like Ryan Merkley or Evan Bouchard if those guys are still avaible. And with the other pick get a center.

Marner11

1.) 02 Feb 2018 17:36:52
One problem, Kyrou is St. Louis property.


2.) 02 Feb 2018 17:39:16
One problem, St. Louis owns Kyrou not Nashville.


3.) 05 Feb 2018 13:59:00
It gets worse:

The Blues pick traded to the Flyers, is conditional. If it is a top 10 pick the Blues have the option to move the pick to 2019; retaining the 2018 pick.

Since the Blues are not going to be a top ten pick; the pick is gone to the Flyers anyway.


 

 

22 Jan 2018 18:04:31
Toronto needs a fifth line center upgrade.

To Toronto: Jean-Gabriel Pageau

To Ottawa: Kerby Rychel, 4th round

And try these lines when Zaitsev returns-

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Marner
JVR-Bozak-Brown
Martin-Pageau-Kapenan/Levio

Rielly-Gardiner
Hainsey-Zaitsev
Dermott-Carrick/Borgman

Marner11

1.) 22 Jan 2018 18:52:34
If you are scratching komorov you can't have kapanen up, otherwise leivo goes to waivers. Also you then waive polak to have borgman sitting out i'd like the defense to just try
Gardiner reilly
Dermott hainsey
Borgman zaitsev
Carrick

Possibly with borgman dermott being swapped. Reilly and gardiner may not pan out but i think itd be worth a shot. i'd want hainsey working with those rookies.


2.) 22 Jan 2018 19:01:49
I knew I was forgetting someone. I don't want Komerov scratched he can play in the 4th line.


 

 

20 Jan 2018 03:40:11
To Toronto: Colin Miller, Nic Hague

To Vegas: JVR, Connor Carrick, 2nd round pick

Re-sign Colin Miller after this season and he can play in our top 4.

Marner11

1.) 20 Jan 2018 13:57:37
I assume that you expect JVR to play out the season for them.

If so, you should make the 2nd rounder, a conditional 1st if he doesn't re-sign.

Of course, it appears they are going to the playoffs, and may want to keep JVR for the season as a rental.


2.) 20 Jan 2018 14:45:53
What's the motivation for Vegas to give up a top 4 right shot defenceman? It can't be for scoring as they are number 4 in the league in goals for with a 30 goal differential which is number 3. Colin Miller has a lot to do with that, so you are asking Vegas to pretty much give us Miller for Carrick. Not going to happen in my opinion.


3.) 20 Jan 2018 22:50:52
AM34:

Collin Miller is not a top 4 Dman, but a bottom 4 defenseman who is getting to play top 4 on a team with zero RHD depth.

Just remember that Boston chose to keep others. You are clearly over evaluating his worth.

Since they are going to make the playoffs, JVR is clearly a rental, but may extend there; you never know. Carrick needs more playing time and would get that in Vegas.

It's not that bad a deal.


4.) 20 Jan 2018 23:46:38
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I will say it again, Vegas doesn't need scoring and Colin Millers underlying stats actually point to him being a pretty solid 2nd pairing defenceman who can move the puck and a pretty heavy shot. To me, that is a top 4 defenceman in today's NHL. On top of it, the deal includes a defence prospect that got pretty high praise, why would Vegas trade him? I also define top 4 as second pairing. How do you define bottom 4? Sounds like second pairing to me?


5.) 21 Jan 2018 11:28:39
Bottom 4 includes 2nd pair. Which more aptly describes his pay scale, his being unprotected by Boston, his average offense, his average offense.

Top pair Dmen are protected, and normally make upwards of 4M or more.

He is clearly not in that range.

He is a good 2nd pair Dman at best.

And every team needs more scoring. Plus they can flip JVR if they chose to.

You are guilty of falling on the almighty RHD bandwagon to the point where even an average RHD receives undue praise.


6.) 21 Jan 2018 13:43:43
I think you are blinded by pay scale and what you consider average offense, 21 pts for a young D is pretty damn good these days at just over the midpoint of the season and he is still in his RFA status. Vegas has begun to build a nice core with this defensive group that includes Miller, Schmidt and Theodore. Miller actually leads all defencemen on Vegas, so again I ask. why would Vegas trade a core piece with a low salary? This team is going to make the playoffs, that is looking more and more a fact. They are not a team that will all of sudden start getting rid of young pieces, on cheap contracts who are developing into a core piece. On top of it, the trade also included Nic Hague, one of their promising prospects, all this for a UFA in JVR and spare part in Carrick. Does this seriously sound like a good trade for Vegas?


7.) 22 Jan 2018 14:08:06
The Leafs could add, but not much. Miller has had average offense his entire career. You can't go by what he is doing right now, just because they are on a run. The yearly crunch is coming. ANA, CHI, MIN, and LAK will be pushing up the ladder, and the bubble will burst for Vegas.

Similar to last year with the Leafs who fell to just making the playoffs. There's only 11pts separating 1st and a golf reservation in the West. Get ready for the great plunge.

Vegas will sell. If they trade for JVR they will move him for picks/ prospects. There's no reason for them to have to keep him. A 3 way deal might be better.

Hague was a 2nd round pick and will take time to develop; if he does. But he's not a lock to make it.

I see Miller as a 3rd pairing while you see him as a 1st. History will me right.


8.) 22 Jan 2018 22:37:16
Actually, I don't see him as first pairing, but rather solid second pairing. If you are moving JVR, I do agree that a 3rd team would need to be involved, as trades at the deadline where a player is immediately flipped after, rarely occurs. On another note, I actually don't see Vegas falling off a cliff, if anything I do see teams like Anaheim and Chicago missing altogether where they are lacking the depth to make a strong season ending run. Just my opinion.


 

 

17 Jan 2018 13:22:41
Just a minor trade-

To Toronto: Nicolas Hague

To Vegas: Andrew Neilson, 2nd round pick

Nicolas Hague was going to be a top 10 pick at the beginning of last season just like Liljegren. Hague is very underrated. In 41 games with the Mississauga Steelheads he has 21 goals and 48 points. He has top 4 potential.

Marner11

1.) 17 Jan 2018 13:57:59
I would do that trade in a flash. And I still think Neilsen will be good in a year or two.

I would throw in Carrick. Vegas has no RHD depth.

Hague is big, aggressive and fast.


2.) 17 Jan 2018 21:48:43
Hague would look good in a Leafs jersey; all-day! I think leafs would need to add a little more or change it a little?


3.) 18 Jan 2018 10:43:34
If you are going to wear a leaf, you might as well be built like a tree.


 

 

06 Jan 2018 21:45:18
This may or may not be true but their were reports of a trade trying to be made between the Canucks and Leafs. It was-

To Leafs: Erik Gudbranson

To Canucks: Andrew Neilson and a 3rd round pick.

Marner11

1.) 06 Jan 2018 22:58:54
Neilson has far more future value than Erik.

The Canucks can keep him.


 

 

 

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23 Jan 2018 14:20:56
At the Deadline-

To Toronto: Ian Cole

To Pittsburgh: Frederick Gauthier, 5th round pick
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To Toronto: Jean Gaberiel Pageau

To Ottawa: Kerby Rychel, 3rd round pick

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To Toronto: Andrew Shaw

To Montreal: Nikita Soshnikov, 3rd round pick

At Draft-

To Toronto: Colin Miller, Nic Hague

To Vegas: Jake Gardiner, Andrew Nielson, 2nd round pick

Re-sign-
Nylander
Miller
Pickard
Carrick

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2018-19 lineup

Hyman-Matthews-Brown
Kapenan-Kadri-Nylander
Marleau-Shaw-Marner
Martin-Pageau-Johnsson
Levio

Rielly-Hainsey
Dermott-Miller
Borgman-Zaitsev
Carrick

Anderson-Pickard

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05 Nov 2017 14:46:28
I think to help Marner get out of his slump he should play with a guy who plays similar to himself. So I think babs should try these line combinations-

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Komerov
JVR-Marner-Brown
Levio-Bozak-Kapenan

The reason Marner is at center is because I think he can drive his own line and playing with Brown a good hard working two way player would be beneficial for Marner. The reason I have Martin as a scratch is because he is just taking up a spot on the wing. The Leafs are one of the only teams that dress an enforcer in there lineup every night and the Leafs have other guys that are willing to fight like Komerov, Kadri.

Marner11

1.) 07 Nov 2017 15:54:23
Komarov never fights. Kadri only fights when he has no choice. Most of the rest of the team won't fight.

Almost all teams have fighters. The reason you don't see them is because they can also play these days, and they don't score a lot either. Buffalo - Georges; WAS - Wilson; VAN - Gudbranson and so on. The list of fighters this season so far contains no scorers.

Martin is there for a reason. He will contribute 15+ points this season (Already has 6). Not all of the leafs lines, are going to have 40 pt players. And he does all of the duties of a checker well, along with hitting well, and enforcing.

He could always sit for light duty teams, but why lose the advantage of intimidation over the non fighter teams.

No one is taking runs at the kids right now.

You won't like it when he's gone.


 

 

26 Jun 2017 21:51:35
Has anyone else ever thought what if the Leafs had a team that could only be 22 and younger well it would look like this-

Rychel-Matthews-Kapanen
Johnson-Nylander-Marner
Timashov-Brooks-Bracco
Lindberg-Gautheir-Grundström

Dermott-Liljegren
Neilson-Valiev
Greenway-Middleton

Woll
Scott

Marner11

1.) 29 Jun 2017 05:52:37
Well that will never happen considering leafs actually want to win, and not fill their teams with just young players and hope for the best. Like why would Reilly or Rasanen not be there?


 

 

16 Jun 2017 02:59:57
With all of this talk about how the leafs needing to trade for a top 4 defencemen, it made me think that instead of trading why not do what the leafs have been doing all along... draft and develop. There is lots of defensive talent in this 2017 draft class. I think the Leafs best option would be trading up for Liljegren because he has potential to be a number 1 defenceman one day. But if trading up isn't an option then then draft Foote because agian he's a right handed shot defencemen aswell he is a big body which the leafs need on defence.
If you think about it the leafs top 3 defencemen are Rielly, Gardiner and Zaitev and Pittsburghs top 3 defencemen in the playoffs this year we're Daley, Schultz and Cole. All 3 of the leafs top 3 defencemen are better than Pittsburghs.
Also we didn't make a blockbuster trade to get our number 1 center did we? No we didn't. And who knows we would find a gem in the second round. Players named Subban and Josi were second rounders.

Marner11

1.) 16 Jun 2017 04:48:53
The problem is that we have 3 absolute studs in Matthews, marner and nylander. They're all game changers who are on really cheap deals for the next 2-3 years. With the leafs trading for a top 4 d man, it'll make us contenders. It's basically just taking advantage of the big 3's cheap contracts.


2.) 17 Jun 2017 05:40:19
marner i want too see the leafs win and if we continue that mentality of developing players for spots we need we will never win a cup. we are in the stage of making minor adjustments.


 

 

26 May 2017 02:57:53
The Leafs need to do a few things this off season. First of all they will need to trade a few player like James Van Riemsdyk and Tyler Bozak because there both on expiring contracts and the Leafs could get a top 4 defencemen for James Van Riemsdyk and a pick and a prospect for Tyler Bozak. The Leafs should also consider trading Leo Komerov although Komerov is an elite penalty killer his contract expires after this season and instead of losing him for nothing I belive the Leafs could get a pretty good return for Komerov. I also think the Leafs should explore the option of trading Nazem Kadri. Now I know a lot of people don't want that to happen but Kadri has loads of trade value right now and the Leafs could get a massive return. And the Leafs could move Mitch Marner to center. Although Marner is a little undersized for center I think he could handle 3rd line center. Some of the best 3rd line centers in the league are guys like Kevin Hayes, Sean Couturier and Nick Bonino and Marner could handle those guys at center.

2017-18 Lines
Hyman-Matthews-Kapanen
Levio-Nylander-Brown
Leipsic-Marner-Rychel
Martin-Fehr-Soshnikov

Rielly-Manson/Montour
Gardiner-Zaitev
Dermott/Holm-Carrick

Thoughts?

Marner11

1.) 27 May 2017 01:17:39
Your now not a playoff team next year.


2.) 27 May 2017 22:31:32
You've just moved 4 prime players for 1 non-1st pair defenceman.

We haven't signed Holm.

Are you trying to build the team or ruin it.

Are you a Habs fan.


 

 

 

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17 Apr 2018 16:42:10
If we gave Calagary Connor Brown and a 1st round pick I think that would be enough to get Tkachuk. And if we were giving up Nylander we could land a guy like Hamilton.

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29 Mar 2018 02:00:51
Johnsson is definitely ready to play full time next year.

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25 Mar 2018 22:54:02
Zaitsev sucks.

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18 Feb 2018 12:56:25
Where is Gardiner in this lineup?

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18 Feb 2018 12:50:59
Where do the Leafs have the cap space to bring in 13 million in free agents?

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13 Jun 2017 00:48:40
That would be awesome if that would happen. I think the biggest one the leafs should try to do is draft Liljegren.

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