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02 Mar 2023 00:01:02
Nashville may need time to reevaluate their direction, but what about:

Nashville
Jusse Saros $5M

Toronto
Matt Murray $4.7M
Justin Holl $2M
One prospect such as Topi Niemela, Roni Hirovinen, Ty Voit, Nick Robertson (not Matthew Knies)
1st 2024

The point is to target Saros, the pieces going the other way to be debated.

MARLANDREWS

1.) 02 Mar 2023 00:34:32
McDavid for…
Holl holmberg voit

Target is McDavid
Pieces to go other way to be debated.


2.) 02 Mar 2023 01:00:57
Nashville is rebuilding and have former 1st round pick, Askarov in the pipeline so they might be interested in another 1st round pick and a decent prospect.


3.) 02 Mar 2023 10:39:59
@MPH, now that's cruel. I am trying to be nice here but your proposal has nothing to do with the trade proposal - which is certainly fair from the Leafs IMO, and open for discussion.


4.) 02 Mar 2023 11:49:06
Nashville is not in full rebuild. They have lots of good young pieces already in the system. I can't see them doing this trade. They are likely going to clear some cap by moving out some older pieces and then they will go shopping in the summer.


5.) 02 Mar 2023 14:30:54
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Tell me where to send the case of Kleenex.


6.) 02 Mar 2023 15:41:29
@MPH, ok another Genius has risen and nobody else dare to speak. I seen MARLANDREWS post and find nothing wrong with it but you have somehow taken it on to yourself to discourage any discussion or future posts - unless they are approved by MPH. Maybe you are the moderator on here. I come on this site from time to time to view the posts cause I am a Leafs fan, same as MARLANDREWS, but you seem somewhat offended. I am not the one requiring Kleenex here, you are the issue IMO.


 

 

03 Jun 2021 19:44:10
I feel Rielly didn't make enough impact offensively, especially on the PP the last half of the season and during the playoffs. He's a great defenseman but a shake up is needed.

Toronto
Morgan Rielly $5M
3rd Round pick/Liljegren

Florida
Spencer Knight ELC
MacKenzie Weegar $3.25M

Toronto
Alexander Kerfoot $3.5M

Any Team
3rd Round pick

* Let Freddy walk
* Resign Hyman $5.25M -$6.25M
* Resign Galchenyuk to affordable 1 year deal
* Resign Simmonds
* Resign Bogosian
* Pursue Seth Jones next off season as he is said to be wanting to test free agency and may not be a wise trade option at the moment
*Cap out approx $14 M
*Cap in $7.5M


New Player - Matthews - Marner
Galchenyuk - Tavares - Nylander
Mikheyev - Engvall - Hyman
New Player - Spezza - Simmonds

Brodie - Weegar
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin - Bogosian


Campbell
Knight

MARLANDREWS

1.) 04 Jun 2021 02:09:05
They aren't giving us knight and Weegar. They want move Bob and keep knight.

Weegar was undervalued last season by most of us but now everyone knows he is good.


2.) 04 Jun 2021 12:36:01
Because of salary and term, it is pretty much Rielly for Weegar straight up at this point.
I don't think Knight is going anywhere as LL said.


3.) 04 Jun 2021 23:38:49
Rielly for weegar is a stretch then you want knight for liljegren and a 3rd

How about Florida counters

Marner and rielly Andersen rights for bobrovsky and weegar and duclair rights
That’s 15.9 for 13.25
Then florida signs Andersen 2X3.5
Leafs sign duclair 5X4.5

Making it 19.4 for 17.75 but aren’t stuck with bob for so many years.

Would you accept this.

Now u know how flirida would feel by your proposal.


4.) 05 Jun 2021 02:12:07
I love Hyman. But let's look at this seriously without being fans. 5.5-6.25 million for 4-6 years (which would match what Edmonton will offer) . Is this a contract that will work when he plays at most 80% of the time? He has 5 playoff goals. Aren't hymans easy to find? Lower skill but hard workers? He's a good player but with the cap and wanting to keep the top end players Hyman and kerfoot and Reilly and Andersen equal the cap space to get the right depth players.


 

 

09 Oct 2020 15:44:28
Big post, but here is what I've been dreaming up...

Trade 1)

TORONTO
Anderson $5M

ARIZONA
Crouse $1.53M
2nd 2021
Hossa LTIR $5.25M 1yr

Trade 2)

TORONTO
1st 2021

COLUMBUS
Korpisalo $2.8M

Trade 3)

TORONTO
Dermott RFA $3M (estimated)

BUFFALO
Ristolainen $5.4M

Trade 4)

TORONTO
Johnsson $3.4M

ANY TEAM
Best draft pick package offered

Trade 5)

TORONTO
Holl $2M

ANY TEAM
Best draft pick package offered


LINE UP

Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
$2.25M - $11.6M - $7M = $20.9

Mikheyev - Tavares - Marner
$3M - $11M - $11M = $25M

Robertson - Kerfoot - Simmonds
$850k - $3.5M - $2.5M = $6.9M

Crouse - Spezza - Barbanov
$1.53M - $700k - $925k = $3.2M

Engvall
$1.25M

FORWARD $TOTAL = $57.25M

Rielly - Pietrangelo

$5M - $9M = $14M

Muzzin - Ristolainen

$5.7M - $5.4M = $11.1M

Sandin - Schenn

$900k - $1.2M = $2.1M

Lethonen
$925k

DEFENSE $TOTAL = $28.1M

Korpisalo - Campbell

$2.8M - $1.65M
GOALTENDING $TOTAL = $4.5M

$TEAM TOTAL = $89.9M



KESSEL B/0 + $1.2M
HOSSA LTIR - 5.25
= -$4M


Salary Cap = $81.5M

Leafs' Cap = $85.5M


IF the Leafs

Trade Kerfoot and sign a 3C for $2M

And/Or

Buffalo retains $2M in salary on the Ristolainen deal

And/Or

Trade Engvall

They are within $1M of the cap.

*Could Ottawa sign Pietrangelo and trade him to the Leafs retaining salary? Similar ideas were mentioned with Tampa Bay and Detroit regarding Sergachev...

TORONTO
Johnson $3.4M
2nd round 2021

Ottawa
Pietrangelo $9M
Retained $2M


Staring Line Up

HYMAN - MATTHEWS - NYLANDER

MIKHEV - TAVARES - MARNER

ROBERTSON - JANKOWSKI - SIMMONDS

CROUSE - SPEZZA - BARBANOV

RIELLY - PIETRANGELO

MUZZIN - RISTOLAINEN

SANDIN - SCHENN

KORPISALO

Teams can be over the salary cap during the off-season so the order of trades in this scenario isn't too important.

MARLANDREWS

1.) 09 Oct 2020 20:58:40
LTIR counts as a roster spot during offseason and his cap counts against team during this time frame

You are allowed to be 10% over cap at any time during off season but need to be cap compliant by 12 noon day 1 of regular season . Players can be put on LTIR at midnight of same days long as league approves it.

So during offseason your LTIR player takes spot of any 1 of your players on 2 way deal thus replace that players minimal cap hit with the expensive injured player.

So to use your first lineup as example. The only forwards on 2 way deals are barbanov and Robertson. Since Leafs don’t want to make decision on Robertson yet (he can’t go to minors but since he is on main roster now if they take him off the roster right now he is forced to go to jr as that’s only roster move to make for him right now unfortunately) they’d once again take the Russian back to non roster players lineup (poor guy)

So now hossa is 4th line on your lineup even though he is hurt. Leafs add hossa 5.25 cap hit - barbanov .9 cap hit adding 4.35 to leafs 89.9 Hit you pointed out. Then add kessel 1.2 million and quick math is 95.45 cap hit.

10% 81.5 is 8.15 thus 89.65 is max any team at 1 time can have during offseason. Teams have to have 20 player min on their cap hit roster. Even taking out extra skaters this lineup is way too expensive.

As far as LTIR contracts once you place player on this his cap hit moves to LTIR. Then you must replace him with a roster player.

So in theory the best way to use this is during the offseason you have a roster of players that cost no more than 82.19 (81.5+min contract) in total making sure at least 1 of them are on 2 way non waiver deals. You get your hands on a known LTIR player replace that non contract with the injured players hit making sure his cap hit is less than the allowable 8.15 over cap limit. So in hossa case 82.19 team cap -.7 min player=81.49 ($1 less cap limit) + 5.25 hossa cap hit=86.74 which is under 10% allowed.

Then at midnight first day of season you put Hossa and his 5.25 cap hit on LTIR. Thus dropping team back to 81.49 cap. Now you get to replace hossa roster spot with any 1 player not on roster at this moment whom makes 5.25 or less in cap hit. Now your team is cap compliant even though it’s real cap hit is 81.49 plus whatever that roster replacement makes. Glitch in the system.

Problem is you can’t use this added value on existing roster players. Since all your players who make over a million dollars are 1 way guys you’d have to waive them first hope they don’t get picked up by another team and send them to non cap roster. then resend them through waivers now and again hope no teams pick them up even though now they are at half their price (you must pay other half if picked up) if you get lucky now you can use them to replace hossa if their hit is 5.25 or under. In reality this 5.25 cap hit usually gets replaced by a minimum salary guy but it still Makes them exceed cap by 699 grand so it’s still an effective move. If you get super lucky a solid 2-5 million UFA or non tendered RFA player could still be unsigned. You sign that player up to 5.25 million cap hit and now you have fully used this glitch to the max. Good luck still having that guy available though.

In most cases theses LTIR covers any trade you make for players make same or less than that LTIR contract during season who would regularly put you over cap but this glitch prevents that from happening. It also helps when guys making big money get hurt but not long enough for their cap hit to not count. Thus now you can replace injured player as well as the LTIR contract with 2 guys making under 5.25 combined. You don’t have star player but also can grab a better than minimum contract player to replace him. See how this helps

Your idea was good and your trades were solid but LTIR just doesn’t work how you thought this putting your team way over even during offseason

Hoped this helped
Sorry so long but so was yours lol.


2.) 09 Oct 2020 21:36:55
This is completely insane. Half of these "trades" make no sense. Keep dreaming, Teams know Toronto is desperate for defenseman and try to get as much as they can from them. Johnson isn't worth anything, Kerfoot either. Dermott will not get you Ristolainen. Leafs would have to give up more. I don't think Dubas is going to trade Anderson. Why would a rival team like Ottawa help the leafs. You would have to give up more like a Roberston plus a 1st.

Another thing Roberston is still not NHL ready. He did decent in the 3 games he played but he's not even close to playing against NHL players. This may work in NHL 20 but not in real life.


3.) 09 Oct 2020 22:06:46
If Anderson is worth Domi+ then I wouldn't make statements like "they are worth nothing". I didn't think so either but apparently they are.


 

 

09 Oct 2020 12:41:33
Long post, but here is a team I would like to see...

Trade 1)

Toronto
Anderson $5M

Arizona

Crouse $1.53M
2nd 2021
Hossa LTIR $5.25M 1yr

Trade 2)

Toronto 1st 2021

Columbus
Korpisalo $2.8M

Trade 3)

Toronto
Dermott RFA $3M (estimated)

Buffalo
Ristolainen $5.4M

Trade 4)

Toronto
Johnsson $3.4M

Any Team
Best draft pick package offered


Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
$2.25M - $11.6M - $7M = $20.9

Mikheyev - Tavares - Marner
$3M - $11M - $11M = $25M

Robertson - Kerfoot - Simmonds
$850k - $3.5M - $2.5M = $6.9M

Crouse - Spezza - Barbanov
$1.53M - $700k - $925k = $3.2M

Engvall
$1.25M

FORWARD $TOTAL = $57.25M

Rielly - Pietrangelo
$5M - $9M = $14M

Muzzin - Ristolainen
$5.7M - $5.4M = $11.1M

Sandin - Schenn
$900k - $1.2M = $2.1M

Lethonen
$925k

DEFENSE $TOTAL = $28.1M

Korpisalo - Campbell
$2.8M - $1.65M

GOALTENDING $TOTAL = $4.5M

$TEAM TOTAL = $89.9M

KESSEL B/0 + $1.2M
HOSSA LTIR - 5.25
= -$4M

Salary Cap = $81.5M
Leafs = $85.5M

IF the Leafs

Trade Kerfoot and sign a 3C for $2M

And/Or

Buffalo retains $2M in salary on the Ristolainen deal

And/Or

Trade Engvall

They are within $1M of the cap.

*Could Ottawa sign Pietrangelo and trade him to the Leafs retaining salary?

Toronto

Johnson $3.4M
2nd round 2021

Ottawa

Pietrangelo $9M
Retained $2M

Starting Line Up:

HYMAN - MATTHEWS - NYLANDER

MIKHEYEV - TAVARES - MARNER

ROBERTSON - JANKOWSKI - SIMMONDS

CROUSE - SPEZZA - BARBANOV

RIELLY - PIETRANGELO

MUZZIN - RISTOLAINEN

LETHONEN - SCHENN

KORPISALO


Thank you.

MARLANDREWS

1.) 09 Oct 2020 14:17:03
Why on earth would ottawa do that?


2.) 09 Oct 2020 14:22:29
That isn’t how LTIR works bud.


3.) 09 Oct 2020 14:30:42
Korpisalo is not worth a 1st round pick.


 

 

30 Sep 2020 22:40:46
Many experts have the Hurricanes taking Yaroslav Askarov if he doesn't get taken prior. I like the idea of jumping ahead of them and taking him first.

Although Minnesota, and Buffalo have a need in net they also have an equal need for skilled forwards so if they are willing to trade down (which implies they are not set on taking Askarov).

There are good centers available around 7th-9th (Lindell and Perfetti) I could see Askarov being on the board at 10th.

Leafs
15th OA
Andreas Johnson

Winnipeg
10th OA
(They could possibly trade Ehlers and save 2.5mil with Johnson replacing him)

Or

Florida
12th OA

If nothing else he is an extremely valuable trade chip, but alternatively sets the Leafs up in terms of cap and a soon to be position of need.

MARLANDREWS

1.) 01 Oct 2020 03:28:46
If this deal was offered to the Leafs, I would want them to reject it. The fact is, that Johnsson is an older player with only one decent season under his belt. It doesn’t seem fair to hold this season against him because of injury, but it can’t be helped. We don’t know how good he will be when he returns. That lowers his trade value as he is going to be viewed as damaged goods by some teams.

Any trade involving Johnsson will be selling low. There’s too much uncertainty. I don’t see any team trading out of the top 12 if he was the player coming back. I actually think you would have more teams interested in a prospect like Abramov or SDA over Johnsson as the player involved to go along with the 15oa.


2.) 01 Oct 2020 12:48:45
I can't see the Jets doing that as they need D and centre ice position.

Fla may, as they only lose 3 spots but gain a solid 2-3 winger. Leafs might if they are trying to move more cap for another deal or signing.


3.) 01 Oct 2020 15:51:49
The Jets would never do this foolish trade.


 

 

 

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01 Oct 2020 22:28:44
One thought I have is Rielly has grown up (as a professional) and played in Toronto, both Pietrangelo and Ekbald have played in far less intense markets.

I prefer Rielly over the other two because I know exactly what to expect.

I would prefer Pietrangelo over Ekblad not by much but perhaps his presence will help Sandin, Lilly, Dermott and any of the youngsters develop.

Top of my personal list is Parayko.

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28 Jul 2019 12:50:57
Value wise I'm not going to argue. But the Leafs need certain players and Schwartz isn't the right kind. He can play through tough playoff hockey but in my opinion he doesn't make it tough to play.

Personally I'm a fan of Roope Hintz if I'm to provide an example. He big, physical, and provides cap help.

Kapanen for Hintz + 2nd.

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23 May 2019 19:43:53
When I say misstep I am referring to the loss of Gardiner and Dermott and not having Rosen available. It lead to having both Gardiner and Dermott in the line up against Boston and being a step slow.

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22 May 2019 12:56:05
Schenn woukd be an insurance policy which hinges on the misstep this past season by Dubas at the deadline. It isn't a necessary move, but RHD would have more depth. He's played here before and knows the city also.

He was a physical force in a game for Van late in the season with double digits in hits I believe which put him back on my radar.

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25 Oct 2018 15:49:42
Lowry is a third line center. Kadri is a second line center.

Lowry is on the ice to prevent goals. Kadri is on the ice to score goals.

Kadri is better than Stastny.

Kadri has an excellent contract.

Second Line
Laine Kadri Ehlers.

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