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07 Sep 2021 03:05:10
Since Arizona is trading away players, Leafs should try to acquire Jacob Chychrun in a 3 way trade:

Tor trades Morgan Rielly

Arizona trades Jacob Chychrun

3rd team trades 1st pick and/ or prospects

The trade will be Morgan Rielly to Arizona for Jacob Chychrun then Arizona flips Morgan Rielly to the 3rd team involved for 1st round pick and picks/ prospects.

Leafs get a good 'D' under a good contract for a few years and could use the freed up cap space for other trades.

Thoughts?

LeafsGuy76

1.) 07 Sep 2021 12:57:16
My thinking is if you want Chychrun it will have to be a massive overpay. I think they want to keep him and have made him their new OEL so to speak. They will likely keep most of what they have and then trade off as many pending UFA's as possible at the TDL for picks and prospects at that point.


2.) 07 Sep 2021 22:53:48
With 21.7 million owed over 4 yrs = 5.425 avg vs his 4.6 million cap hit he is a perfect Arizona next to be dealt candidate. Only schmaltz and his 33.9 owed over 5 yrs 6.78 avg vs his 5.85 cap hit

2 trade candidates who they’ll get 2 1sts and 2 2nds again

Then they pick up even more picks by acquiring more bad contracts with 1-2 yrs left to hit the cap floor

Everything anti win leaf fans want. Deal their stars gain many picks then trade for bad contracts for more picks.

Guess Arizona is your dream team, too bad their rebuild is only 4 years removed from last rebuild. Oh wait that’s what anti win leaf fans want as well.

Go Yotes go.


3.) 08 Sep 2021 02:04:43
That is why I had a 3-way trade, Arizona still gets kings ransom, by flipping Rielly. I think Rielly for Chychrun is a fair trade, but, obviously Arizona won't keep Rielly. It's the 3rd team involved that would want Rielly and give kings ransom to Arizona. Arizona wants the high picks/ prospects, what the leafs don't have, so to make it work via 3-way trade. You might think it's impossible, but, definitely doable.


4.) 08 Sep 2021 02:07:27
Also, They didn't have to trade Dvorak. So, if they traded Dvorak, then they certainly can consider a Chychrun trade.


5.) 08 Sep 2021 12:50:34
LG76. Dvorak is a 25 year old mid 6 forward they got a 1st and 2nd for. On some teams, he would be a 3rd line centre making $4.45M. He is replaceable.
Chychrun is a top pair 23 year old D-man who gets better every year and is signed for $4.6M for 4 years, which is great value. With whatever picks/ prospect you get, you are not likely to get another Chychrun, but you can likely get another mid 6 forward from a 1st and a 2nd round pick.
Not many teams build around a mid 6 forward, but you do around a top pair D-man. Agree?
Just my opinion, but with Rielly 4 years older and a pending UFA that will be almost double Chychrun's cap hit to resign, Chychrun should have more value. I think it is more like Rielly and a high prospect or 1st if you want Chychrun.


6.) 08 Sep 2021 23:27:05
Dvorak was owed 20 million over 4 yrs while his cap hit is 4.45. So as they didn’t need to deal him they definetly live dealing a contract that was owed more salary than his overall cap value. 2.2 million isn’t a lot but to Arizona and how they do buisness it was well worth the package they got. Save money gain picks.

So yeah Dvorak was on Arizona’s summer trade list for sure once the right deal came along.


 

 

10 Jun 2021 20:44:21
If Leafs were to trade Marner.

Tor finds a way to acquire Nolan Patrick and flips him.

Tor. trades:

Marner
Patrick (Dad played many years for Buffalo)
either Hallinder, SDA, Nick Abruzese high prospect
maybe a high draft pick as well

to Buffalo for:

Jack Eichel
prspect or draft pick

- Move Tavares to LW. Eichel at 2nd line Centre and Nylander (RW)

- Sign Landeskog and Granlund as UFA's. Landeskog plays with Matthews on LW. Granlund either plays 3rd Centre or LW. depending what happens with Kerfoot.

LeafsGuy76

1.) 11 Jun 2021 02:36:40
I think your insanely over the cap lol. Eichel costs the same as Marner give or take.


2.) 11 Jun 2021 04:47:17
Yeah your way over the cap here lol.


 

 

07 Jun 2021 16:41:05
If Leafs were to trade Marner.

Tor finds a way to acquire Nolan Patrick and flips him.

Tor. trades:

Marner
Patrick (Dad played many years for Buffalo)
either Hallinder, SDA, Nick Abruzese high prospect
maybe a high draft pick as well

to Buffalo for:

Jack Eichel
prspect or draft pick

- Move Tavares to LW. Eichel at 2nd line Centre and Nylander (RW)

- Sign Landeskog and Granlund as UFA's. Landeskog plays with Matthews on LW. Granlund either plays 3rd Centre or LW. depending what happens with Kerfoot.

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23 Feb 2019 19:58:00
If the leafs are targeting McQuaid, better if they pass, he is not the solution that will get them to win a round and it will be loss of assets/picks.

In my opinion, Jake Muzzin hasn't been that much of a difference, been solid, but, is he much more of a difference maker? I've seen only one solid hit...lately he hasn't hit and been prone to making some mistakes...for me, losing the 1st was an overpayment...at most the highest should have been a 2nd.


Dubas needs to address grit into the lineup..if not, then instead of giving away picks...bring up players from the marlies in Marchment and Moore.

LeafsGuy76

1.) 23 Feb 2019 20:52:58
The Leafs need not do anything; they're okay with what they currently have going into the playoffs.
Go Leafs!


2.) 23 Feb 2019 22:16:47
You're right, the Leafs are okay. Not great, not a threat in the playoffs, just okay. Personally, I'd like to see them as a cupbfavorite, like the Bolts, Jets, Predators.


3.) 23 Feb 2019 22:43:57
Dubas will make some other move. as long it's not a 'dubas' move.


4.) 24 Feb 2019 00:41:25
Marchment looks good this year. He’s got a bit of edge to him just like his old man too. I’m curious to see if he make ms the team next year. Leafs look like they have a few guys ready to make the jump next year, and Marchment may very well be one of them. We obviously don’t have the room for all these guys. So a trade of some sort makes sense. I hope we make another trade similar to the Muzzin one.


5.) 24 Feb 2019 01:29:20
It will take bracco and a pick to get mcquaid. however, when tampa asks the rangers for him they say have him for a 4th. pathetic. dubas should just stay put. going to get ripped off by every team due to every team hates the signing bonuses the stars get offered by the leafs. leafs have most money and use it fairly. other teams are jealous so won't make fair deals with them. that's business for you.


 

 

10 Apr 2018 14:16:37
Many mention signing a free agent defenseman like John Carlson in the future, but, don't forget the leafs have a verbal agreement with KHL defenseman Igor Ozhiganov. most liikely being played in the top 4.
Also, don't think Borgman and Rosen would want to go back to the AHL next season, they signed with the leafs with the intentions playing in the NHL.
I see some aren't happy with Gardiner being traded, but, if the leafs want to add a top 1-2 defenseman, someone unfortunately has to go with also defensemen depth coming in, probably Gardiner and Carrick are moved before next season. Hard to see a 50 point defenseman go, but, Rielly, Zaitsev, Dermott and Hainsey are the ones that most likely won't be moved.

LeafsGuy76

1.) 10 Apr 2018 14:28:23
Leafsguy76

The Russian must be able to play. Lou doesn't know what he has there he didn't promise number 4 slot. He must earn what he gets does he start with Marlies. No Gm is promising anything specific the player has to play at the level to earn the Job.


2.) 10 Apr 2018 15:18:41
Lets take look Bracco again he has just turned 21. He has 5 goals and 20 assists in his first season marlies. He is considered a perfect setup man and I see Nylander playing with him down the line.

Bracco just starting to gain confidence on marlies he will have much more to offer next year to marlies. let's hope he is ready for Leafs at start of 2019-20 season.

There are certain guys you just wait and watch and Brocco fits that throwing blue chip guys off board 4 short term gain doesn't work anymore.

So just keep your eyes on brocco and watch him at marlies when this guy is ready look out.


3.) 10 Apr 2018 20:46:54
Nobody knew what they were getting with Zaitsev and he played top 4 to start. Yes, there is also a chance Ozhiganov doesn't play top 4, but, my point is the team can only play 1-6 sometimes 7th defensemen. With new defenseman coming in and more upcoming depth.1-2 have to go, and I wouldn't be shocked to see it being Gardiner and Carrick. I hate to see Gardiner go, but, it's a numbers game and also freeing up extra cap space. To leafs management. Reilly, Zaitsev, Dermott and Hainsey aren't going anywhere.


4.) 10 Apr 2018 22:20:58
The leafs want the best depth possible for the playoffs. They're not going to move Gardiner or Hainsey. it's that simple.


5.) 11 Apr 2018 00:11:04
Gardiner brings points but to keep him and hainsey your making no changes. Hainsey is defensive he would need to be your top pairing on right side guy.

Putting Gardiner with Reilly or Zaitsev prevents me from sleeping .

Reilly hainsey
Dermott zaitsev
Gardiner Holl.


6.) 11 Apr 2018 00:37:07
I agree with MarquesMen. Gardiner is Leafs best defenseman right now. Hainsey is our only half decent RHD next to Zaitsev. Borgman, Rosen, Liljegren, Holl, Russian guy, all have to wait while Leafs pursue the cup.

Our best bet to repeat our success this year is to ice the same squad we had this year. Good enough for one of our most successful seasons ever. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. After end of next year, I expect Leafs will make their decision regarding the future of Hainsey and Gardiner. But not until then. Management is not going to make us weaker by trading one or two of our best defensemen. Leafs might pursue a big name UFA to add to the team, but that doesn’t mean anyone on the current roster will be traded. It just means we get stronger.


7.) 11 Apr 2018 02:22:19
Tsn panel all picking Bruins if leafs lose take it in stride but accept that we need changes. No UFAs coming back.


8.) 11 Apr 2018 06:21:24
LeafsGM

The problem bringing everyone back on long term deals isn't next year. The problem is there play will regress and your stick with them. Ok bring Gardener and Hainsey back they will be hungry and play well looking to cash in. Give me your prediction Toronto Boston.


9.) 11 Apr 2018 10:41:57
You don't necessarily have to make changes to be good. look at Tampa and what Steve Yzerman has done with them. He's barely made any big trades since he's been there (with the exception of Mcdonagh) and he turned that team into contenders.


10.) 11 Apr 2018 11:56:55
Change will come from the exodus of the 3 UFAs.


11.) 11 Apr 2018 13:40:08
I think think they'll need to make major trades in order to make that happen though. I think they'll sign FA's or make minor trades.


12.) 11 Apr 2018 14:44:08
I don’t think Gardiner or Hainsey will be coming back after next year. They both leave free agency. Dermott replaces Gardiner and Liljegren replaces Hainsey.

Incidentally, you’re talking about signing Carlson, he’s older than Gardiner.


13.) 12 Apr 2018 04:49:36
LeafsGM

No worries about Carlson he will receive many offers and all money will be same. American guy I'm sure New York or Washington appeal to him much more than Toronto.

New York is always where I thought Carlson would land we will see. New York were brilliant at deadline they cleared lots of cap space loaded up with pics and now they are going to spend like crazy in offseason.

Their two targets are Carlson and Tavares and if islanders don't sign him I'm sure he plays in Manhatton.

Leafs could stand pat in defence keep Hainsey with Reilly and get great look at Holl. They also have the Russian kid coming . Maybe they get lucky with him.

Reilly Hainsey
Dermott Zaitsev
Gardiner Holl

This allows you to keep two offensive guys on defence chipping in a lot of points Reilly and Gardiner. Also you have each of Reilly, Zaitsev and Gardiner with a safe partner that can help cover up for bonehead plays those three always make in their own zone.

Who are you taking prediction time. LeafsGM.


 

 

 

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09 Feb 2020 22:44:23
Something I would like to see...Toronto trades Alex Kerfoot to Calgary for Sam Bennett

Alex Kerfoot was brought in to replace Kadri...I've seen nothing from him other then float...no grit...can't score...can't even play with a top line player like Tavares.

Sam Bennett would be a great 3rd line center for the leafs and replace the grit lost with Kadri and on a line with Kyle Clifford would make a great checking line

LeafsGuy76

1.) 10 Feb 2020 12:29:28
Yes guy.


2.) 10 Feb 2020 15:29:52
For sure.


3.) 11 Feb 2020 02:46:39
All those bad things you said about Kerfoot and all those good things you said about Bennett is the exact reason why Calgary would never make this trade. My take is that if you want to “sell” a trade, you should maybe try to find some common ground that justifies what each team has to gain by making the deal.


 

 

18 Jun 2019 00:40:21
This is the easiest way to solve a Marner issue that he doesn't want to sign less than what Matthews makes. the guy is awesome. but to receive that kind of money coming out from ELC contract. greed is coming into play then having a heart and passion for the team. So to help solve this issie and cap issue:

Offer Marner to the Rangers at the draft for 2nd overall. draft Kaako. you still have a superstar on the team and helps with cap issues as he will go on a 3 year ELC contract. problem solved.

LeafsGuy76

1.) 18 Jun 2019 03:42:45
I think Leafs fans have been spoiled with our luck at the draft lately. They have come to expect that all top 1st round guys are going to work out as stars. The truth, as everyone knows it too, is that busts are far more common than stars. Before finally getting it right starting 2012, when we drafted Rielly, Leafs performance at the draft was mediocre to worse. If we didn’t trade away our 1sts, we wasted them by picking guys like Percy and Biggs, amongst others, who just weren’t any good. Now we have been spoiled with a string of very successful drafts, and have become spoiled, thinking all top draft picks will be successful, when the reality is that the opposite is more likely to be the truth.

I don’t know if Kaako will be a superstar like Marner obviously is. It seems kind of risky to take the chance. I would rather trade Marner for an established player. Though I suppose we could use the money saved from not signing Marner can just go I signing a big name UFA like Panarin or Lee. Though I would rather just sign Marner then if we were to do that. Unless we were able to get a true 1RHD, which we can’t, because none are available now that Karlsson is signed.


 

 

05 May 2019 17:36:11
As Ken Holland will be named new GM of the Edmonton Oilers. Kyle Dubas will release Mike Babcock as coach of the leafs and will then be hired as new coach of the Edmonton Oilers. Holland and Babcock will be back together. you heard it here first.

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22 Apr 2018 06:48:24
That Rene Rancourt is annoying with his celebrations after singing the national anthem's. the guy showboats like he won a wwe championship. he looks like a goof lol.

LeafsGuy76

1.) 22 Apr 2018 13:31:42
While he is a goof, it's fun to make bets with your buddies regarding how many fist pumps he does after the U. S. anthem.


2.) 22 Apr 2018 14:58:37
Lol good one!


 

 

18 Apr 2018 05:15:19
I see many here want Tkachuk from Calgary, but, question is why would Calgary even consider trading him?
If the leafs want Tkachuk, they should try to move up in this year's draft and take Brady, from what I read, is better then his brother.
Clearly, leafs need to consider adding some players grit and toughness to balance the many skilled players currently in the organization.

LeafsGuy76

1.) 18 Apr 2018 08:37:06
Why would Calgary even consider trading him? How about;
1) they missed the playoffs.
2) they lack secondary scoring
3) they need a proven BU goalie.
4) they need to make changes to improve and join the elite.
5) they've blown their draft picks (nothing until the 4th rnd this year) to assemble a defense that is suspect and lacks scoring punch.
6) as has been stated many times on this site "you need to give to get".

Trade I think would help both teams address their needs:

Leafs: Nylander, Gardiner, Brown, Picard, 2019 1st, 2018 2nd.
Flames: Tkachuk, Hamilton, Bennett.

Flames get 141 pts. a NHL BU for Smith and some top draft choices back.
Leafs get some grit and size and a 3C.


2.) 18 Apr 2018 09:02:02
Calgary just drafted Tkachuk. they won't give up on him this soon. Regardless of making the playoffs or not, they will not give up on Tkachuk. A move guranteed not to happen anytime soon.


3.) 18 Apr 2018 13:13:07
I mean i think for that package they would definitely consider it. Gardiner can man a powerplay think of it this way.

Gardiner and a first for hamilton calgary does that trade probably if they feel they can resign him.

Tkachuk for nylander and brown
If i'm calgary I look at making that trade tkachuk is a different style player but if gaudreau monahan and nylander have crazy chemistry that could be bostons top line dangerous in the offensive zone.

And finally bennett for picard and a 2nd i think they win this one aswell as picard may end up being a starter in this league i think calgary would roll the dice on him. So when from calgarys perspective they win 2 out of 3 trades for sure and possibly 3 out of 3 i think they do this trade. From torontos perspective your giving up a lot but getting exactly what you want in return. Benett may be risky but babcock has a way with getting what he wants out of players and activating them.


4.) 19 Apr 2018 02:58:34
Nicely broken down Randy. I think Calgary would have a tough time turning this trade down. They add a lot of badly needed offense and draft picks using their strength (defense) .
Leafs are giving up a lot, but get exactly what they need to get to the next level. Rielly/ Hamilton gives them a legit top pairing. Watch Rielly's numbers soar with Dougie watching his back. Tkachuk, s grit and pugnacity with Kapanen's speed open up the ice for Mathews. I agree with you, I think Babs brings out the talent in Bennett to become a top 2/ 3C at a very affordable price.


5.) 19 Apr 2018 13:57:29
Id take Bennett for Pickard and a second any day. It's mind blowing how low the Knights sold him for at the start of the season, not to mention the fact that he cleared waivers in the first place. Looked great at the Worlds, and has looked great for the Marlies. Here's hoping Lou can flip Pickard for something meaningful.


 

 

 

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08 Sep 2021 17:46:37
If the leafs were to add, it will be a high prospect. I can't see the Leafs losing another 1st round pick this year after wasting last season's 1st round pick on Foligno. Arizona will get their draft picks from flipping Rielly.

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08 Sep 2021 02:07:27
Also, They didn't have to trade Dvorak. So, if they traded Dvorak, then they certainly can consider a Chychrun trade.

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08 Sep 2021 02:04:43
That is why I had a 3-way trade, Arizona still gets kings ransom, by flipping Rielly. I think Rielly for Chychrun is a fair trade, but, obviously Arizona won't keep Rielly. It's the 3rd team involved that would want Rielly and give kings ransom to Arizona. Arizona wants the high picks/ prospects, what the leafs don't have, so to make it work via 3-way trade. You might think it's impossible, but, definitely doable.

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07 Jun 2021 16:26:53
Definitely, I see Dubas signing Granlund as a UFA. Usually players he has targeted in the past, he has found a way to get them to the leafs.

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23 Feb 2019 22:49:26
Gardiner should be traded. simply because he is ufa. ufa's are getting a premium from other teams. no reason why they shouldn't be exploring the option. getting assets for a ufa is good management.

They should explore a trade with Minnesota. I can see Gardiner signing an extension there since being from there. thus, the return of the trade will be much greater and possibly recoup a 1st round pick.

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22 Apr 2018 14:58:37
Lol good one!

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18 Apr 2018 09:02:02
Calgary just drafted Tkachuk. they won't give up on him this soon. Regardless of making the playoffs or not, they will not give up on Tkachuk. A move guranteed not to happen anytime soon.

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04 Feb 2018 22:55:34
I'm not sure if I'm the only one noticing. besides JVR putting up somewhat decent points this year. I find all the upcoming UFA's not playing what they are capable of playing, the attitude with them this year is "I'll try my best, laid back attitude" because they know they won't be resigned.

the effort to help the team win isn't there. I know someone might question this comment and say "why wouldn't they play with effort on a contract year". my answer is, no matter how they are playing this year, when they become UFA, someone will pay big and hope to play more rejuvenated.

During the Bruins game yesterday, I hardly heard Bozak doing anything. like he was completely invisible, not even playing. JVR had his usual moments on the powerplay, but, invisible 5x5. The player suffering on the Bozak line is Brown. if JVR and Bozak are invisible, it hurts his chances of trying to be dominant.

Another example is Kadri how his game has picked up ever since Komarov has been put on the 4th line. For me, the upcoming UFA players, the way they played last year vs this year. it's day and night. no way these guys just forgot to play hockey. I'm not opposed if GM LL decides to trade them before the deadline. they aren't doing much to help the team win, so why not move on and inject hungry young players that want to play and win. can pretty much gurantee longer winning streaks will be more possible and more goal scoring.

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