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24 Jun 2018 05:53:01
So suppose the leafs sign Tavares. Probably won't happen but definitely a chance.

Leafs trade Matthews to Coyotes for:

Galchenyuk, Keller, Chychrun, 2nd 2019

Leafs sign Reily Nash and De Hann


Keller-Tavares-Nylander

Marleau-Kadri-Marner

Johnsson-Galchenyuk-Kapanen

Brown-Nash-Hyman

Dermott
Gardiner
Chychrun
Reilly
Hainsey
De Haan
Zaitsev

This is a deep forward group ( maybe still lacking some grit)

We could ask for Crouse instead of pick for some grit ( I still think he will be a good player)

This is a cheap line up for now.

Could pick up a 2019 UFA Doughty at trade deadline for playoff run or wait until he's a UFA

Thoughts?

Jminn75

1.) 24 Jun 2018 15:12:57
1 don't ever speculate trading Matthews. He is never going anywhere.

2, I believe the leafs will sign Tavares, at which point nylander will start packing his suit case.

3. I agree with signing Riley Nash and de haan, then it's trading Gardiner out west somewhere.


2.) 24 Jun 2018 15:36:17
I really don’t think Arizona is going to trade half the team for one player, no matter how good he is. All those guys are good. Even Crouse still has the potential to really turn out to be a very good player. Arizona has a lot of very good players who have been mis-managed and coached wrong for years. Like Carolina and Edmonton, I don’t blame the players, I blame the system they play for.

There’s no doubt that’s a better forward lineup than what we currently have. All those players would eclipse Matthews goal and points totals and would give us the extra depth we need to become a better all round team. Our back end looks good, though I disagree with signing DeHaan. He’s damaged goods.


 

 

06 May 2018 13:29:47
Lets pretend like this rift between Babs and Matthews is real and serious. Do you think a trade could happen with the Yotes?

Maybe something like:

OEL
Domi
Chychrun

For Matthews and Gardiner

Then hopefully leafs could get Tavares

Marner Tavares Hyman

Marleau Nylander Kapanen

Brown Kadri Johnsson

OEL Chychrun

Reilly Dermott

Hainsey Zeitsev

Just playing around ( obviously I don't think it will happen, just curious if trade seems fair)

Jminn75

1.) 06 May 2018 14:02:56
Sorry forgot to enter domi.


2.) 06 May 2018 14:42:45
Auston and gardiner to yotes
Cost them chychrun keller perlini Dvorak 1st 2018 1st 2019
Anything less leafs hang up.


3.) 06 May 2018 14:48:13
Lol. Dude come on. I love Matthews but a team won't give all that for him. My 3 guys are all first rounders.


4.) 06 May 2018 16:25:07
Doughty, a franchise defencemen would probably ask for all from Arizona. then we're talking about a franchise CENTREMEN who's only 20 years old and will have a minimum of 9 more years to play for that team .


5.) 06 May 2018 18:00:16
Doughty. One year from being a UFA. You can't be serious. All those players plus two likely lottery picks in 18 and 19. No!


6.) 06 May 2018 19:09:00
Jminn75. Dude? Enough already. Read Marques reply again s l o w l y. he is bang on.
Besides that, you whine that Doughty is one year away from USA. well.
OEL is one year away from being a ufa as well.

Domi is currently a 3rd or 4th line winger, not a Center anymore, little value

The only decent piece is:
Chychurin is a youngster with top 2 potential and that is not near enough for Matthews. And you are also throwing in gardiner?

Really you can’t be serious?


7.) 06 May 2018 19:41:08
Under RFA rules, if another team were able to make an offer to Matthews and poach him from the Leafs, the compensation would be four first round picks, so a trade package including Matthews should have at least four first round picks or high caliber prospects. Gardiner is worth a first round pick/ prospect. So now we are talking about a package of five first round picks or the equivalent in prospects.

Hacksaw’s trade proposal seems closer to the real value. I tend to agree with his assessment of this trade too. OEL is way overrated, Domi sucks, Chychrun is a question mark. I wouldn’t accept this offer.


8.) 06 May 2018 20:06:19
A may be a little light on return. Trade was contingent on signing Tavares

But a Leafs lineup with:

Tavares
Domi ( definitely not a 4th line player, he had an off year)
Chychrun and OEL on defence will go much farther then with Matthews and Gardiner.

Anyway again, if you think the Yotes would give up all those pieces + two potential lottery picks. I think your much farther off then my proposal. Especially with Keller in there.


9.) 06 May 2018 21:06:08
If there was a rift between Babcock and Matthews, then I would get rid of Babcock because he talks like a turd. The only reason why he won anything as a coach is because he had all-star teams in Detroit and at the Olympics/ World Cup of Hockey. Matthews is your cornerstone forward you don't ever consider trading a franchise centre.


10.) 06 May 2018 21:49:27
I do think Coyotes would give up that much for Matthews. The trading cost in Matthews is extremely high. He’s easily met all expectations, and possibly even better. This man is a franchise player that will probably be our next captain. Leafs will be building the team around him.

Neither Hacksaw’s or Jminn’s proposal are appealing enough to me to trade Matthews. Hacksaw’s proposal doesn’t include a number one center to replace Matthews, unless it’s the much smaller and less talented Keller, which doesn’t seem right to me. In Jminn’s proposal, Tavares is brought in. I’d rather have Matthews then Tavares. Matthews is the younger and superior player.

Neither OEL or Chychrun have accomplished much in Arizona. OEL in particular has a rather concerning and persistent +/ -. Chychrun is young, and the potential is there, but he is not a top line defender. Expecting him and OEL to accomplish in Toronto what they couldn’t do in Arizona seems a little much.

Jminn has two LHD on top line, 2 LHD on second line, and 2RHD on third line. I’m not convinced that is the best arrangement.

Domi really does have cement hands, and Keller would have to be relegated to third line duties after Kadri and Nylander (? ) .

Any draft picks are gambles and highly unlikely to accomplish the successes of either Matthews or Tavares.

Trading Matthews and Gardiner for much of Arizona’s team and future doesn’t appeal to me. Arizona doesn’t have a very good team, and there aren’t many players I would like from there.


11.) 06 May 2018 22:20:37
Yes most knowledgeable hockey people would agree that the yotes would have to give up that package of mine to land Matthews.
And your logic makes no sense “contingent upon signing Tavares” has absolutely nothing to do with the package you get for matthews.
Get a clue.


12.) 06 May 2018 23:24:50
Already said my proposal was light.

Definitely contingent on Tavares because if he didn't sign with leafs, they would never trade Matthews.

Just having fun throwing out ideas. I think Matthews is great. Don't be too serious Hacksaw.

Nylander I disagree with your assessment of Babcock. He is a great coach.


13.) 07 May 2018 05:43:43
How about trade partner with Buffalo and Calgary!

TO TORONTO: A. Nylander and 1st overall 2018 (draft Dahlin)

TO BUFFALO: Matthews and Gardiner

SIGNED: Tavares

TO CALGARY: A. Nylander, W. Nylander, Liljegren

TO TORONTO: Tkachuck, Hamilton, Bennett

Tkachuck, Tavares, Marner
Marleau, Kadri, Brown
Hyman, Bennett, Kapanen
Johnsson, P. Lindholm, Grundstrom

Rielly, Hamilton
Dermott, Dahlin
Borgman, Holl

Andersen
Spark.


14.) 07 May 2018 14:11:12
@hacksawjd

Throwing in Gardiner is not an addition . it’s arizona doing US a favor .

Don’t forget that .


15.) 07 May 2018 23:43:08
Lol blizzard. I actually don’t mind gardiner. but I do think there are better options than him. he will fetch a fair bit in a trade. a first and a prospect I would take.


 

 

 

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18 Sep 2018 23:09:20
No offense Mrbigboy. But your trades are never close and heavily favor the leafs. I know you think Nylander is wayne gretzky but he's not.

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18 Sep 2018 23:06:02
Leafs would be stupid to make that trade.

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18 Sep 2018 23:05:19
Flames say yeah right! They haven't given up on him yet and they probably shouldn't. He's only 22.

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17 Sep 2018 01:19:34
I agree. Leafs would have to add because Minnesota wouldn't do a 1 for 1.

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17 Sep 2018 01:17:15
If they trade Nylander, let's hope a blue chip defenceman will be the return. That would be the most logical thing to do.

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