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13 Jun 2018 17:32:35
Ok I’m going to try and big one for you guys to chew on while I’m at work.

To Toronto:
Girgensons
Ristoleinen
Nylander
Moulson (1 year remaining)

To buffalo:
Gardiner
Brown
Kapanen
Lilligren
1st 2018
2nd 2018
Rights to JVR.

Bettsy

1.) 13 Jun 2018 18:34:19
How about second 2019 and 7th 2020 instead of 2nd 2018.


2.) 13 Jun 2018 18:44:48
Hits:
Girgensons would be an ok komarov replacement
Ristoleinen we need for a top pairing right D
Nylander would play with his brother and be a great young forward to have
Moulson helps to balance for fair trade
Misses:
Dermott moves up to top 4D all though he may not be ready
We lose our future star defenceman in Liljgren
we also lose 2 young right wingers
JVR may not sign with Buffalo and u also may have to include Bozak

In the end:
I would accept this trade because Nylander and Ristolienen are good young players we could use, but we would need to get rid of moulson for cap reasons.
Also I don't know if Buffalo would accept this, unless Rasmus Dahlin is guarenteed to be a superstar.


3.) 13 Jun 2018 21:15:44
Absolutely not.

Moulson is garbage and at $5M is most expensive AHL’er around. Girgensons is useful, but 4th line player at best. Young Nylander has a lot of potential, but doesn’t appear to be anywhere near the level of his older brother. Which leaves only Ristolainen as the only good NHL ready player we would be bringing in.

In exchange, you are offering three roster players, all of whom are very good players, a future stud (and last year’s 1st round pick) in Liljegren, and coughing up an extra 1st and 2nd from this year’s draft.


4.) 13 Jun 2018 22:16:22
What happened with Kapanen? It appears this is a lopsided victory post for the Sabres?
Go Leafs!


5.) 14 Jun 2018 00:08:58
We could also just put Moulson on Waivers if we don’t want him.


6.) 14 Jun 2018 03:00:36
SMH.

This is just terrible.

Why have so many people already forgot the Shanaplan?

It’s as if you want us to lose.

Gardiner = Ristolainen
Brown > Girgensons
Kapanen > Nylander
Than we give them Lil, 1st, 2nd and whatever value JVR still holds in exchange for Moulsons atrocious contract.


 

 

11 Jun 2018 16:26:14
Maybe I’m off with value here but instead of all the massive deals, why not just a simple
Manson and a 2nd to Toronto for kapanen and Toronto’s first. Toronto drops down and picks up Manson. Anaheim gets a bit of scoring.

Bettsy

1.) 11 Jun 2018 16:56:33
You are way off value here. No way Anaheim makes that trade.


2.) 11 Jun 2018 17:29:02
Not enough for Manson.


3.) 11 Jun 2018 17:44:20
Anyway, it’s also fun to speculate massive blockbuster trades too. Lol. That’s what we are here for. If everyone proposed the same old boring depth trades, it would lose its appeal pretty fast.


4.) 12 Jun 2018 03:50:10
Does losing Manson outweigh the benefits of acquiring Kapanen from the Ducks perspective? I think not!
Too many of the trade suggestions are made while only taking the Leafs needs/ desires into account and not the teams the trades are being made with.


 

 

08 Jun 2018 17:17:03
This one may not be sexy or put us over the edge for the cup, maybe I’m thinking more long term but what is Toronto traded their second rounder this year, the negotiation right to jvr and a prospect (Nielsen or a forward) to New Jersey for the 17th overall pick.
That gives Toronto the chance to come out of the first round with mcissac and Samuelson. Two big defensive dmen. Whether I’m right or wrong, I do feel as though this is our biggest weakness (in the pipeline as well as currently) . Both should be NHL players down the road and both have size and skating ability.
What do you guys think?

Bettsy

1.) 08 Jun 2018 18:26:09
I think that's more likely to give you a shot at vegas' 1st but i think that got traded.


2.) 09 Jun 2018 06:16:33
Nobody in their right mind is going to trade a first round pick for JVR’s rights. The 2nd round pick and an AHL lifer/ low level prospect is not enough incentive to pull the trigger on this deal.

Sorry Bettsy, I’m usually inclined to agree with you, but in this case, I think you missed the boat.


 

 

19 May 2017 21:23:40
My ideas.
To Dallas - JVR and carrick
To Toronto - third oa, niemi and the rights to
Nakushkin
Simple. Dallas pays for Toronto taking neimi


To Montreal - bozak and sosh
To Toronto - juulson and a second this year
Bozak and sosh helps Montreal with scoring for cheap, Toronto gets a d prospect

To Anaheim - kapanen and 2017 second rounder
To Toronto - Manson.
Kap is protected already. Toronto gets a big dman

Just ideas I had.

Bettsy

1.) 19 May 2017 23:15:10
Don't get rid of Kappy. Kids going to be a stud.


2.) 19 May 2017 23:15:24
Stopped reading when I saw how you attempted to spell Nichuskin.


3.) 20 May 2017 16:27:32
Kapanen straight up for Manson would be interesting but still an overpayment IMO.


 

 

07 Feb 2017 22:21:40
Ok, just spitballing here.

Jvr sparks to Montreal for juulsen, fucale and a first this year.

This gives Toronto another d prospect, a goalie prospect and a first. In a perfect world this gives Toronto the chance to draft foote and possibly Hague.

Bettsy

1.) 07 Feb 2017 23:50:07
Oh bettsy no way fucale is a flop juulsen is a few years away and the first is low crappy draft at that.
So no from tor.


2.) 07 Feb 2017 23:58:22
If the GM of the Habs were a sensible guy I would say maybe.

This won't happen with Bergevin. He won't give up the pick. He said so last year before the draft, that he won't give up a 1st rounder.


3.) 08 Feb 2017 13:58:07
Have you guys seen fucale's save % in the ECHL? Plays in brampton, and just finally brought it up to 900 lol.


 

 

 

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15 Jun 2018 19:12:52
The dumbest comment I’ve seen on this site so far is that McKinnon is no good and old. I would trade Matthews for McKinnon in a heart beat.
I like the first deal.

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14 Jun 2018 00:04:00
I’d rather have kapanen than tanev. Adding the first is just embarrassing.

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12 Jun 2018 19:29:59
I actually love this deal. I like pysks game a lot. McCann would be a nice third line centee.

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09 Jun 2018 04:12:35
I would literally rather have all the assets you want to trade than the returns. Carlson is going to be this years highest paid (second highest paid) free agent and next years biggest bust. Calvert would be a nice add. I’ll give you that.

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08 Jun 2018 20:25:48
That is interesting. Leafs could send him to robidas island after a year or two.

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