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15 Aug 2018 20:35:10
With sekera out for season what are thoughts on this as I truly have a gut feeling that Panarin will stay put until summer and carolina will go to season with all its D and Parayko is staying put, etc. Not saying that this is the trade that needs to happen but definitely a spot that could use a defense man like Gardiner.

Leafs
Gardiner, Brown,3rd2019

Oilers
Bouchard, puljujarvi, 2nd 2019

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1.) 15 Aug 2018 21:17:08
That is terrible for the Oilers. They're giving up their top defensive prospect and a forward with much better potential for a UFA. It would be hard to come up with a worse proposal for Edmonton. Or are you counting on the Chia factor?


2.) 15 Aug 2018 21:17:11
Oilers are definitely high on Bouchard. Can't see them letting him go for a pending UFA and a depth forward. Let alone giving up Pulj and a 2nd rounder. I could see the Oilers going hard after Faulk with Pulj as the return. Without Sekera and the above trade, oilers D would be feasible;

Nurse - Faulk
Klefbom - Taylor Hall Downgrade
Russell - Benning

Not awful and Sekera goes to LTIR for cap relief.


3.) 15 Aug 2018 22:06:34
Ha oilers laugh and hang up the phone.


4.) 15 Aug 2018 23:23:55
I assume Gardiner signs extension first.

If Edmonton’s GM feels his job is in jeapordy, I can see him start to make desperation moves like this in order to make the playoffs. McDavid is wasting away over there, and for every season Oilers languish at bottom of league, is one more year closer to McDavid pulling a Tavares and leaving at his first opportunity to play for a contender.

I don’t think Bouchard is the player Edmonton would be willing to part with for Gardiner just yet, but we could probably get a decent package out of them stillinvoloving picks and other prospects not so high up on Edmonton’s depth chart.


5.) 18 Aug 2018 01:40:33
Maybe Gardner (if he signs an extension), Kapanen (one of the few players who can skate with McDavid) and a 2019 - 1st round pick for Bouchard and Puljujarvi.


 

 

31 Jul 2018 21:56:21
Tor
Gardiner
Kapanen
Timashov
Stl 4th

Stl
Parayko
Kostin

I read in a few blogs that it may take Kapanen and Gardiner to make the deal, but what about this....
Thoughts?

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1.) 31 Jul 2018 23:41:12
They will insist on Nylander. 100%.


2.) 01 Aug 2018 01:20:05
If St Louis is willing to part with Parayko and Kostin I would be happy to give them Gardner, Kapanen and Leafs 2019 1st round pick.
Get it done Kyle!


3.) 01 Aug 2018 04:33:44
it would cost nylander and kappy or brown would be the replacement on the cheap. Parynko exactly what the leafs need.


 

 

13 Jun 2018 17:58:04
To Arizona: W. Nylander
2018 1st (25th)

To Leafs: 2018 1st (6th) (maybe tkchauk)
K.Wood (RD)
C. Dvorak (C)


Obviously pick depends who's available at 6. Gives leafs money to spend on guys like Tavares or whoever it may be. Also a possible replacement for nylander in tkchauk, if he's available, as well as a familiar face for marner, and a big D prospect (6'5, RD).

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1.) 13 Jun 2018 21:02:54
All those guys from Arizona you suggested have a lot of real potential. At least one will work out. Right? They can’t possibly all be busts?

I’m not sure how I feel about trading Nylander for picks/ prospects. Even the ones you have suggested here. This trade makes us weaker next year. Dvorak is contributing to his team, but Nylander is the superior player. Would rather just try Nylander at center.

Leafs can already afford to splurge in free agency without sending Nylander away as cap dump. No matter how I look at it, as it stands right now, Leafs have the money to sign either a Tavares or Doughty or Carlson, and still be able to sign MMN.


2.) 13 Jun 2018 22:23:34
That is risk of a trade, there are no garuntees. Nylander could wake up tomorrow with some random diagnosis, and not play another game for all we know. Not to say it happens but anything could. Without taking a risk, there’s no reward. If all 3 of those players turn out, then they hosed the coyotes, you just never know.


3.) 14 Jun 2018 01:43:52
I would not trade a proven, 22 year old, 2 time 20+ goal scorer, 60+ point, 1st line, right wing for picks and prospects.


4.) 14 Jun 2018 02:42:12
Hear hear.


 

 

23 May 2017 17:33:11
Arizona - C.Dvorak, K.Wood

Toronto - T. Bozak, L. Komorov, 2018 3rd

Gives Toronto a couple prospects and a familiar face to marner, gives arizona some veteran leadership/grit/face off specialist. But also allows Toronto to protect its youth in the expansion, in which Arizona still has spots to protect bozak/Leo. Arizona may not even be interested but oh well it's Just a thought, not saying it will happen or anything. What do you think?

Babsocks

1.) 23 May 2017 20:05:40
Makes sense for rebuilding Arizona to trade away young players for older ones. Great thinking!


2.) 24 May 2017 01:21:33
Both Leo and Bozak have great value to a team on the playoff bubble.

For Arizona, who oddly seems to be where the Leafs were last year, the trade makes zero sense, even though Dvorak would be an upgrade over Bozak. And Kyle Wood is kind of interesting.

Aside from old fogies Doan (UFA), and Richardson; the Yotes have no quality RW, as Rieder and McGinn are actually converted LW's and are better off on the left.

So maybe:

TOR: Bracco, Wong (both exempt)

ARI: Dvorak, K. Wood (RHD, big, doing well in the AHL) (both exempt)

All 4 players serve the needs of their new teams.

Or if that hurts "Puck It's" feelings too much; then swap Kapanen for Bracco.


3.) 24 May 2017 16:40:57
Lab

I like your trade it makes sense for both teams.


4.) 24 May 2017 20:27:00
Appreciate the debate lab16 I do actually like your trade, my point was that I felt Dvorak and wood would be good pick ups for the leafs to continue down their path. Your trade definitely does make more sense when it's put that way. Xcing on the other hand, why don't you think up another useless nylander trade to trade the future away.


5.) 25 May 2017 12:58:07
I watched Kyle Wood play his whole junior career in North bay. He was good, he's a big boy but I feel like he will be too slow for the nhl.


6.) 26 May 2017 03:32:57
they would be good pick ups i'd do that trade.


 

 

 

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25 Aug 2018 19:39:53
What I don’t understand is why you would bother trading that big package of:
Borgman, Leivo, Pickard, a conditional 4th, Kapanen, Neilson and Gardiner (with an extension already in place)

For

puljujarvi

And a swap of firsts (which realistically is a wash as Edmonton could potentially compete)

Especially if you say he is not the prospect they thought, meaning he wasn’t worth his draft slot. And he is just a “decent” prospect. That being said why would Toronto not expect more back in that trade.

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15 Aug 2018 23:39:03
Says the guy who posts trades involving half the leafs team to other teams for players that were just signed a year ago to a long term deal. And if Gardiner and 2 prospects can fetch Panarin in your posts, to say this proposal is not even close would be ridiculous, as Panarin, 1yr of control or not would be worth more than just puljujarvi (who hasn’t quite bloomed as expected yet) and Bouchard (who is a strong prospect) (most leaf 33)

Gilmour93- if they would be willing to make a trade for Faulk, who Carolina says they aren’t trading. Why would they not consider Gardiner. As he is the only one of the 2 to have a 50 point season under their belt, and when he is on the ice, the leafs are actually noticeably better. Granted when he makes a mistake it’s noticed, but that is due to his offensive style play. Over their careers they have almost identical point totals but Gardiner did it in one less season, and for some years, a much worse team.


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02 Aug 2018 17:26:09
Interesting that you say Sandin is probably a busy and they called him a standout at camp. On top of that there’s a 1.5 yr age diff between Durzi and Sandin. Not to mention that this is the second year Durzi attended the development camp, last year as an invite this year as a draftee. So to compare the two at this point in there development is irrelevant, personally.

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13 Jun 2018 22:23:34
That is risk of a trade, there are no garuntees. Nylander could wake up tomorrow with some random diagnosis, and not play another game for all we know. Not to say it happens but anything could. Without taking a risk, there’s no reward. If all 3 of those players turn out, then they hosed the coyotes, you just never know.

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17 Aug 2017 12:46:38
Ummm. marner?

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