04 Mar 2018 17:21:15
3-way trade

To San Jose:
Patrick Marleau

To Toronto:
Islanders 2020 4th round pick

To Islanders
Matt Martin
San Jose's 2020 3rd round pick

NO RETAINING

At first glance, this trade seems HORRIBLE for toronto, however this helps toronto quite a lot.

My reasons

1. In the year 2019 the leafs will have to resign important players such as Auston Matthews, Mitchell Marner, and Kapanen. The problem is Patrick Marleau and Matt Martin, their contract ends a year later 2020. They currently gets paid 8.75 million per year between the two of them; the leafs need to get rid of him to pay off these IMPORTANT players or major problems will occur.

2. In the year 2020 Seattle is most likely going to do an expansion draft. Marleau alone effects the leafs here because something called a NMC (No-Move Clause) contract. If the expansion draft is like the last, each team must count their NMC players towards one of their people they can protect. They can only protect 7 forwards; Marleau is 1. Therefore if they doesn't trade him they will most likely loose either Hyman or Kapanen.

OTHER REASONS

3. Andreas Johnsson, LW 23 year old, is averaging a point a game in the AHL; his contract ends this year. Leafs need to get rid of a LW in the lineup.

4. Marleau is going to be 39 years old next year; he's old, he's not getting any better.

5. Matt Martin no longer fits within the lineup, the leafs have no use for him.

Why would the Islanders accept the trade?

Though they take on an overpaid contract. It is only for 2 years and they have the Cap space to do so. They upgrade their lineup and Draft pick.

Why would the Sharks accept the trade?
Though they as well take on an overpaid contract. He is a San Jose fan favorite, they currently have over 18 million in cap space, and he would be a top 7 player for that team.

Marleau is a good player in all, but you must consider factors like these or it can ruin the leafs future.

1.) 04 Mar 2018
04 Mar 2018 17:33:38
You were right when you said this is horrible for Toronto. You’re trading a 20+ goal scorer for a 4th. Won’t happen. Lou signed him to play him not trade him in his first year.

2.) 04 Mar 2018
04 Mar 2018 17:45:37
I did not say that I said at first it seems like it's a horrible trade but if you read it you will see why it's a good trade for everyone especially toronto.

He would be traded in the second year of his contract not the first.

3.) 04 Mar 2018
04 Mar 2018 17:49:01
Ok if you don't trade him you loose either Kapanen or Hyman instead.
Think bigger picture.

4.) 04 Mar 2018
04 Mar 2018 20:05:33
Nonsensical proposal. The Leafs will not necessarily have any cap issues because of Marleau's contract in 2020. There are a ton of moving parts between then and now, including what the big three are signed for (bridge vs. long term deals), how many players on the Marlies are able to make the jump to the NHL (and will be playing on ELC's) and what the total salary cap goes to.

Trading Marleau, an effective 20 goal scoring leader and veteran would be sending a bad message to the team and other UFA's looking to potentially sign in Toronto.

5.) 04 Mar 2018
04 Mar 2018 20:55:13
What about the seattle draft they will be forced to protect him because of his NMC contract and risk losing Hyman or Kapanen?

It won't send a bad message if you trade him back to san jose for almost nothing.

This year he has 20 goals.

6.) 04 Mar 2018
04 Mar 2018 21:13:15
The Seattle draft which has not even been officially announced? The rules of which have not even been determined? The number of players Toronto will have at the time that will be eligible for it and the number who will need to be protected which we do not know?

Yeah better go trade an NHL iron man who has averaged like 25 goals a year over the past 20 seasons for absolute peanuts, just in case.

Good call.

7.) 05 Mar 2018
05 Mar 2018 01:36:31
First of all, Key West Arena needs about 600 million in renovations to get it ready and up to standards for NHL and NBA teams to play in. The earliest they say Seattle would be admitted into the league would be the 2020-21 season which means it's a non-issue as Marleau's contract would have expired by then.

8.) 05 Mar 2018
05 Mar 2018 02:00:48
@LeafsFuture
In response to your reasons for making said proposed trade:
The salary cap is reportedly expected to rise in the coming season. Projecting forward 2-3 years there could be further increases depending how the economics of the game unfold. Escrow contributions by players will also factor into future salary cap figures. The Leafs have one of the best capologists in Pridham who I have read and heard is quite astute. As part of a progressive management team, the Leafs continuously evaluate their teams daily and long term needs. They’re in the business of building a sustainable franchise that will remain competitive for years to come. Having experienced management like Babcock, Lamirello, Hunter, and Shanahan, who understand what winning looks like, will only help shape the long term vision for this team.

In terms of your second reason, there is plenty of time before any decisions need to be made regarding the protection of players. In a few years, this Leaf roster may look very different from the one we have now. For example, players like Kadri will be 30 and entering into his final year. Gardiner may still be a leaf by then or have moved on. My point is there are a lot of moving parts and variables along the way that will shape what happens to the Leafs when they reach that point. I wouldn’t worry about the details. The Leafs management will do their best to protect the best of their roster. Other teams will face similar challenges come the next expansion draft.

Marleau was acquired for a number of reasons including the ways in which he is a role model for the younger Leafs still learning the pro-game.

FT4A Stinks summed things up well with Marleau. I couldn’t agree with you more. It would absolutely be sending the wrong message to veteran players outside of the Leafs organization.

9.) 05 Mar 2018
05 Mar 2018 02:09:54
If I didn’t read far enough into your proposal it means it held no merit. Regardless, that’s a poor return for Marleau. If he does get traded it would be the last year of his contract where is AAV is tiny and a very easy move at the deadline.

10.) 05 Mar 2018
05 Mar 2018 02:31:50
It’s not as if he is signed to a 6 year deal it’s two more seasons he has seemed plenty fast this season, highly unlikely the leafs deal him for that and they have a lot of salary coming off the books this year.

11.) 05 Mar 2018
05 Mar 2018 03:37:05
Leafs won’t be in on Karlsson other than to drive up the price; leafs make a blockbuster W/ Arizona

To Yotes: Matthews, JVR (Signed at 6.5X5) carrick, Gardiner, Martin, Brown, Neilson

To Leafs: OEL, Stephan, Domi, Dvorak, Fischer, Oliver-Joseph, 2018 1st (no lottery protection) 2018-19 2nds

Marleau-Kadri-Marner
Domi-Stephan-Nylander
Hyman-Dvorak-Kapanen
Grundström-Aaltonen-Fischer

OEL-Rielly
Dermott-zaitsev
Borgman-/ Holl/ Rosen/ liljgren.

12.) 05 Mar 2018
05 Mar 2018 05:44:42
Leafs have been linked to OEL/ Domi and have been in the Hunt for more center depth: coyotes get a generational talent plus additional pieces they could trade to recoup assets leafs send there 2018&19 2nd to Arizona (didn’t mention that above my bad.

Leafs depth on the wings and through the middle is stronger; but the D still needs solidifying; with a top 5 pick options are considerable BPA or trade down for additional picks/ D prospects.

13.) 05 Mar 2018
05 Mar 2018 12:47:00
Dude why on earth would Lou or anyone with a brain make this trade.

14.) 06 Mar 2018
06 Mar 2018 04:15:17
The Leafs are not trading Matthews. We can omit any trade proposals that include his name, especially ones to Arizona. The Coyotes can use their lottery pick to try and draft their own Matthews.

15.) 07 Mar 2018
07 Mar 2018 04:25:00
They need a true young number 1 center Matthews is that; they can’t afford another top 5 non impact player ( strome may in time be a guy the can rely) Matthews is that right now.