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21 Apr 2018 23:32:30
Would you take on Dustin Brown if it meant getting Doughty? Say something like:

Toronto trades Connor Brown, Gardiner, Zaitsev, 1st

LA trades Dustin Brown, Doughty

Toronto lineup next year:

Hyman/ Ma.

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21 Apr 2018 21:18:09
Toronto: Connor Brown and 3rd 2018

Calargry: Sam Bennet

Toronto: Gets a high potential replacement for bozak. With the fallout floor being similar to browns production.

Calargry: gives a stuggling player a change of scenery and gets back a young cost controlled player who would get more minutes in Calargry.

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21 Apr 2018 18:43:53
TOR: Gardiner, Kapanen, 2018 second
EDM: Klefbom

I've been reading a lot about what Edmonton wants to do this off season and one of their key pieces is to bring in a fluid puck moving defencemen. Gardiner would easily be their best one at that. There also bringing in a good draft pick along with a young, cheap, speedy scoring winger which could play with McDavid.

Toronto would be bringing in a very good two way defencemen who had tremendous size and strength. Klefbom doesn't provide too much offense but brings in a very good shutdown role style. He also skates very well for his size. He's 24 signed for another 5 years after this year at a very reasonable 4.2M.

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21 Apr 2018 19:41:14
Seems like a lot to be giving up for Klefbom.

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21 Apr 2018 20:49:59
If it was a lot, I'd be more than glad to leave out some pieces. I think he'd be a good fit in Toronto though.

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21 Apr 2018 13:15:41
Possible moves this summer.

Vancouver - Tanev
Tanev has 2 years at around $4m

Tor - Gardiner + pick

Gardiner has 1 year at $4.5m and could be flipped at the trade deadline by vancouver for a picks in the next draft or prospects.

Then Leafs go after John Carlson in free agency.

Reilly Tanev
Dermott Carlson
Hainsey Zaitsev
Borgman Polak

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21 Apr 2018 15:08:34
I like it. I could see Gardiner being flipped straight across for Tanev since Gardiner is coming off of a career high in points.

Then, signing Carlson is another good move. That dcore looks very potent, and can be made if we aleviate the cap taken by JVR, Bozak and Leo.

One issue I have (not with your post, but in general, if we decide to let Bozak walk) is 3C. Miro Aaltonen, imo, is not ready, and Willys better on the wing. My idea is to add a guy like Calle Jarnrok for a 2nd Round Pick and a prospect like Andrew Nielsen, as Nashville has centre depth of Johansen/ Turris/ Bonino/ Sissons, and Jarnkrok is wasted on the fourth line.

Still, i like your ideas.

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21 Apr 2018 16:29:18
I think Vancouver would get more trading Tanev for picks/ prospects than trading Gardiner for picks/ prospects. So we would have to give them enough that they come out ahead after trading Gardiner. A low pick might not be enough incentive. A prospect or even another player such as Lievo or Carrick to go along with Gardiner night work.

Carlson is by far the best UFA on defense available this year. He will not come cheap. If we brought in Tanev and Carlson, we would have 5 defensemen signed at between $4.5-$6.5M, depending on what we pay Carlson. It means we would have to trade Zaitsev basically. He wouldn’t be needed anymore anyway.

I like your thinking.

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21 Apr 2018 06:19:19
Just for fun

Tor- 2018 2nd Tor
TB- Dotchin
Dotchin is a promising defenseman not being used by TB

Tor- Gardiner, 2019 2nd
Win- Myers
Win trades from an area of strength at right D for a left D that had 50+ points this year

Tor- Nylander
Cal- Hamilton, 2019 2nd
Cal has lots of defensive depth and adding Nylander could help with secondary scoring (Something that they lacked this year)

Tor- Matthews, 2018 1st, Zaitsev
Edm- McDavid
Would just be fun...That is all. Would even add to this trade. McDavid had 100+ points both years he played a full season on the Oilers. On Toronto he would lead the most dynamic offence in the league. For Edm...they aren't trading McDavid..but would be amazing to imagine if they would

Resign JVR
Sign Jumbo Joe to 1 year
Sign Riley Nash to 3 years

JVR-McDavid-Kapenan
Marleau-Kadri-Marner
Hymen-Thornton-Brown
Johnsson-Nash-Bracco
Grundstrom/Aaltonen

Rielly-Hamilton
Dermott-Myers
Borgman-Dotchin
Liljegren

Andersen
Sparks


If the cap space doesn't check out don't sign Thornton and make riley nash your third line center and aaltonen 4th center

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21 Apr 2018 15:09:03
What the, what the what.

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21 Apr 2018 15:33:27
You just traded matthews and nylander and not resigning jvr you just lot 3 of your dynamic forwards bringing 1 back.

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21 Apr 2018 16:43:05
He actually did re-sign JVR, he’s on the first line beside Matthews.

Other than the fact that Edmonton will absolutely not be trading McDavid (and, for that matter, Toronto will not be trading Matthews), you are also sending them an extra defenseman they don’t need. They already have four defensemen signed at about $5M each, and still need to re-sign Nurse. That would give them six defensemen all over $4.5M each. Way too many. EDM would need to trade at least two defensemen after. Would love to have McDavid on the team though.

With dotchin, Hamilton, Myers all coming in, we wouldn’t have space for Liljegren, .

I think Leafs need to bring in only one RHD. A real first line top-notch player for beside Rielly.

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20 Apr 2018 13:55:21
Oilers don't do this deal if they win first pic 2018 in lottery

Leafs sign Jvr 8 years and trade Nylander Brown 2018 1st and 2nd pics

Oilers Larson 2018 first round pic 2nd to 8th overall

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20 Apr 2018 14:10:39
Woahbear-99

Vegas never trade Alex Toch. The knights got lucky this year. It is a free ride for Vegas how far they go in playoffs is a bonus.

They are not forgetting that they are a new team that is building with young talent and draft picks. The illusion the magic of this year will not change the master plan of their GM.

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20 Apr 2018 17:38:30
I hope it's clear to all u guys who want the same team back sign a UFAs JVR Bozak Komarov need to go.

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20 Apr 2018 17:56:49
Can nylander survive this offseason. Nylander buddy had great series nylander was invisible. I don't think Babcock believes in Nylander anymore.

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20 Apr 2018 18:09:09
Today April 20 is like death vatlley in this site. I want to know who has disappointed you the most this series. Who is going in a trade let's have some analysis.

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20 Apr 2018 18:41:00
Mackin,

I think you are giving up way too much here for Larsson and a better 1st round pick. For one thing, you failed to take into account Oilers cap situation. Sending Nylander and JVR and Brown amounts to about $14M in salary, while we are only takomg about $5M back.

Edmonton is going to move some players, and I suspect a defenseman will be one of them. Nurse has developed to a point that he is a top four defenseman and will be re-signed. In which case, almost certainly one of Oilers top 4 will be traded. I think Oilers would be looking more for a package of prospects and picks for him though. I don’t think Oilers will be wanting JVR. They are constantly looking for youth and talent. JVR is lacking in both departments.

Bracco, Brown, 1st for Larsson.

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20 Apr 2018 19:35:47
Button on tsn said Edmonton would want JVR badly to play with mcdavid. I suppose that's in my thinking.

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21 Apr 2018 00:21:19
Looking are UFA list this year, and JVR is one of the best available. Edmonton might want him to team up with McDavid. But he’s not going to be cheap. Edmonton would have to move assets in order to afford him.

Craig Button has a lot of opinions. Some of which are actually pretty smart. Most of which is pure speculation using the same information we have, namely nothing. Lol.

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21 Apr 2018 03:51:10
Second last leaf Boston game of regular season button said. Leafs better start figuring things out of they will exit playoffs fast whenever leafs touch puck Bruin is there.

Button has been correct .

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21 Apr 2018 09:52:06
Nylander has been garbage in playoffs

Too soft

Won’t go in the corners, won’t stand up to take a hit or give one .

Good regular season player, good vs fitness teams, won’t hold up against any team with Grit

Best player on the team has been Kapanen (and it’s not even close . )

Beat D are Dermott and Polak in this series .

That’s reality kids . not asking for opinion, I’m just telling you the real deal .

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21 Apr 2018 15:10:27
Best player on the team thus far is KApanen? Are you drunk? Have you not seen Marner or Hyman or Marleau?

And Polaks sh*t bricks this playoffs, Riellys been better than him, hell even GArdiner has.

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21 Apr 2018 18:32:50
Kap has been the best all around player on the team in this series (not saying much)

He hits, he’s fast, and he’s playing half the minutes the others you mentioned . Playing hard

Dollar for dollar, kaps has been #1

Polak has been strong . Clearing guys from in front of the net, hitting everything that moves . Pairs well with Dermott who is smart and can move the puck. Should be #1 D our

Reilly? I don’t think you have been watching . Good passer but that’s about it . Doesn’t know how to play D . never hits .

We all know D is the biggest issue, so it’s not like I’m here .

Don’t say Reilly has been good (or Gards . I’ll slap your face)

I was at game 4, sat beside Gards husband . I was chatting him up the whole game . He says Gards has a flinstones vitamins addiction .

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20 Apr 2018 12:28:09
Sign and trade JVR

Toronto: JVR + 25 overall + 2019 2nd rounder

Edmonton: 9th Overall

Toronto drafts Noah Dobson with the 9th overall, a big right hand defense men.

Edmonton gets there winger to play with mcdavid and traded to western conference.

Toronto: Gardiner
Las Vegas: Tuch

Tuch replaces jvr minutes and he is 6'4, hits and can score.
Vegas gets some more defence

we try to sign carlsson 5 years 6.5 or 7 million

sign sustr, likely won't sign with tampa because of cap space and depth on d

lines
Hyman-matthews-nylander
marleau-kadri-marner
tuch-bozak-kapanen
johnsson-gauthier-brown

reilly-carlsson
hainsey-sustr
dermott-zaitsev
borgman

anderson

defence prospects
1. liljigren, 2. dobson, 3. rasanen.

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20 Apr 2018 13:48:45
Woahbear_99

I have never seen you post her but right away you bring a great idea. Leafs would have to add Brown but your trade for sure is in right vain.

Edmonton need JVR badly and the only way they land him is the 8th year and with Leafs help. Been leafs add Brown the leafs might still have to add their second round pick, here is your trade with a more realistic add on.

Leafs trade JVR signed to 8 year deal Brown their first round and second round picks 2018

Oilers trade their first round pic 2018

Oilers won't do this deal if they pic top 2 and it's iffy if they do it too 5. But leafs could add to snag wilted first round pick

Jvr signed and trade 8 year JVR deal nylander Brown 1st 2018 2nd 2018

Oilers Larson 2018 first round pick if Oilers land first overall pick they don't make this deal.

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20 Apr 2018 16:05:50
Edmonton want a speedy scoring winger who can play with McDavid. McDavid would take the puck up ice and JVR would still be in his own end, how's he a perfect fit? If anything, Kappy would be the perfect winger for McDavid.

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20 Apr 2018 21:45:19
MarquesMen

Is Kapanan trade value high or low your not trading him he is going to build up his value and he dirt cheap. Nylander value on trade market much higher .

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21 Apr 2018 02:42:28
You'd have to sell him on the thought of his potential. I personally think he'd be filthy with McDavid.

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20 Apr 2018 11:47:43
Islanders 4 th round pick

Leafs Hainsey and Martin

The reason I make it 4th pick from islanders instead of a third or second is Islanders are taking Martin

Martin has two years remaining. You could do Hainsey deal with any team but they must take Martin. Leafs will gladly take less than Hainsey full value if someone eats Martin contract.

Martin couldn't get into leafs lineup the last 30 plus games. Next year Martin has no shot at all it's either a buyout he is sent to. Marlies or traded.

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20 Apr 2018 10:57:41
Leafs sign trade JVR nylander brown Gardiner

Edmonton Larson Nurse

Your solving Edmonton problems and leafs get two really good defencemen

Looks like Leafs are done they dominated Boston until Bruins scored that second goal.No worries it's also about tomorrow for the Leafs they are just to young.

Time will fix the youth problem the positives Marner is showing us what he will become an all star winger. Matthews is fine Boston have just shut him down but again time is on Matthews side.

Nylander is just soft that's why he must be traded and he brings back a ton in a package. Maybe Leafs can extend this series but to win 3 games in a row isn't likely.

Expect many changes in offseason the 3 UFAs gone. Plus leafs will fix their backend and add more grit in offseason. When Leaf season ends Kapanan Dermott and Johnsson will be on the Marlies.

We can watch the 3 above plus Engvell Grundstrom and Liljegren. Bracco is also Leaf bound very soon so enjoy watching marlies guys. 7 of them will be Maple Leafs real soon.

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20 Apr 2018 11:10:45
I forgot to mention Holl I'm absolutely certain he replaces Carrick as 6 th defencemen next season. Players that were part time leafs and marlies soon to be full time Leafs.

Dermott
Kapanan
Johnson
Grundstrom
Bracco
Liljegren
Holl

That's a lot to look forward to plus we can watch

Engvell
Nielsen

Those two could make Leafs one day also Neilson just needs to take a major step. The only thing that can stop him is his foot speed but let's all watch Marlies win Calder Cup.

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20 Apr 2018 11:25:56
Leafs defence next season

Reilly Larson
Dermott zaitsev
Nurse Holl

Hainsey would be traded. There would be many takers for Hainsey who could be packaged as well. Hainsey entering final year could fill a role on many teams.

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19 Apr 2018 21:43:11
TOR: Nylander, 2018 first
DAL: Seguin

Not sure if anyone heard this but Bob Mckenzie was saying in his podcast that Dallas is open to trading Tyler Seguin. Hearing this, it says to me that he's probably going to walk next summer at FA and they'd would rather trade him now rather than not get anything for him.

Side note, some people may think this isn't enough from the leafs side but it's basically Dallas taking the highest bid. They're not going to hold out and let him walk. I can see them wanting a bluechip prospect who's NHL ready. Not sure if any team can offer up a guy like Willy.

If Dallas was to do a sign and trade with the leafs at let's say 8 years, 9M AAV, who would be open to this trade?

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19 Apr 2018 22:26:52
I’d say goodbye to Nylander. Seguin should have been a Leaf from day one, but of course, we traded that pick for Kessel.

Dallas is deep on Center position, but losing Seguin would hurt. It would take a real blue chip prospect such as Nylander to acquire him. I don’t think he will hit the market. He’s too valuable a player to Dallas to just allow him to walk for nothing.

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19 Apr 2018 22:27:57
MarquesMen

It's looks like too high a price for me. Nylander for same age player that why I put forth Tkachuk. With Seguin how much money would it take. Big no thanks he wants north of 10 million next year way north.

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19 Apr 2018 22:36:29
Problem is, Calgary would never trade Tkachuk for Nylander. they play in the West where the teams are heavy and gritty. They already have Gaudreau and Monahan, Tkachuk is a perfect fit for them.

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19 Apr 2018 23:59:09
MarquesMen
Calgary could be bought. Here is how this works

Nylander for Tkachuk

Calgary says no

Nylander Brown

For Tkachuk

Calgary gm says no

Nylander Brown second round pic

For

Tkachuk

Calgary says yes

Second round pic and Brown we can live without.

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20 Apr 2018 03:54:03
Mackin. Stop with your ridiculous proposals. I woudnt trade Nylander straight up for Tkatchuk. You don't trade players with the potential of Nylander for a winger. Especially one who already has discipline issues. Nylander is a future Center. Center is our weakest position moving forward. He can be taught how to back check and play defense. He can be taught how to be defensiveley responsible.

Brown is an underrated player on an amazing contract.

you clearly don't understand how hockey in a salary cap world works.

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20 Apr 2018 10:37:03
So you're just going to "overpay" for every player you want? You're not only getting rid of our depth, but you're asking for trouble when you overpay.

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