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15 Dec 2018 10:09:05
Time to make a few changes

To the Leafs. Austin Watson
To the Preds. Fredrick Gauthier

To the Leafs. Niklas Hjalmarsson
To the Yotes. Nikita Zaitsev

To the Leafs. Colton Parayko
To the Blues. Andreas Johnsson and 1st
2019

To the Leafs. Curtis McElhinney
To the Canes. 7th. 2019

Take a look at Kevin Bieksa at the Spengler Cup and inquire about Rick Nash. You can get them on PTO. and sign them once they get into shape. You can never have enough depth in the playoffs.

11-91-16
12-34-29
28-43-24
63-26-Watson

44-55(Parayko)
51-Hjalmarsson
23-2

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15 Dec 2018 05:15:04
Tor gets
Sbisa D

Ny islanders gets
Zietsev D

Tor gets
Gudas

Philly gets
3rd round pick 2019
Marincin D

Tor gets
Pieteranglo D

St.Louis gets
1st round pick 2019
2nd round pick 2019
2nd round pick 2020
Durzi D
Holl D
Johnsson LW
Hainsey D

Tor gets
Puljujarvi RW
Kassian RW

Edmonton gets
Brown RW
Gauthier C
3rd round pick 2020
5th round pick 2019

Toronto's Forward lines
Hymn/Mathews/Nylander
Marleau/Tavares/Marner
Puljujarvi(off wing)/ Kadri/Kapanen
Ennis/lindholm/Kassian

Defensive lines
Riley/Pieteranglo
Gardner/Gudas
Ozhiganov/Dermot
Sbisa

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15 Dec 2018 04:38:13
St. Louis Paroyko

Toronto brown first 2019 Timashov Lindgren

I don't think it's enough but those are the chips Toronto can move easily.

The two pieces I don't want to move are Kapanan and Johnson. These two players can be offered 3 yr deals in offseason. Johnson is more tricky as he is eligible for arbitaction .

Be very interesting to see when leafs are firing on all cylinders how good they can be.

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15 Dec 2018 03:36:18
Tor gets
Gudas D

Philly gets
3rd round pick 2019
Lindgren D

Tor gets
Pieteranglo D

St.Louis gets
1st round pick 2019
2nd round pick 2020
2nd round pick 2019
Zietsev D
Durzi D
Holl D
Johnsson LW

Edmonton gets
Jooris C
4th round pick 2020
5th round pick 2020

Tor gets
Kassian RW

Trade line pick up Rick Nash (if healthy) veterans minimum

Toronto's Forward lines
Hymn/Mathews/Nylander
Marleau/Tavares/Marner
Ennis/Kadri/Kapanen
Lindholm/Gauthier/Kassian
Rick Nash RW

Toronto's defensive lines
Riley/Pieteranglo
Gardner/Gudas
Ozhiganov/Dermot
Hainsey

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15 Dec 2018 00:47:05
Some good feedback on my proposal so I'll repost with those suggestions included.

Leafs: Brown, Zaitsev, Rasanen, Timashov, 2019 1st.

Blues: Parayko

Minimal disruption to the leafs roster and upsetting team chemistry. Parayko brings size, attitude and grit and his contract matches up nicely with Rielly; together for the next 5 years. Hopefully Liljegren and Sandin are ready to be a top pairing by then.

Rielly - Parayko
Gardiner - Hainsey
Dermott - Ozzy
Marincin, Holl

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15 Dec 2018 02:09:14
I would think Dubas would prefer keeping his 1st and giving two 2nds instead. I like it tho. Rasanen is going to be a solid 3rd pairing guy I love him but to get Parayko sure why not.

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15 Dec 2018 02:55:06
Hey BigWilly, Dubas has a history of downgrading his picks for extra later round picks. What do you think we see the same againthis year? I mean, Leafs 1st round pick is going to be ~30th. Maybe Dubas trades it to a team with extra second round picks? My understanding is that this year’s draft is deep, with lots of real good talent available even into the later rounds. So let’s say Dubas trades our 1st (30th) for two seconds (40th and 50th), maybe that actually improves our odds of getting windfall gains by obtaining a player that far exceeds expectations? What’s your take on that thought?

@spider

You’ve definitely targeted the right team and the right player. You are offering all the right guys from Leafs standpoint, these are the guys to be trading. Is this enough for St. Louis? I can’t answer that. But I do notice that what is lacking here is a premium prospect with star qualities coming back in return.

You got the right idea for sure. If blues are trading top players they will have top prospects or high picks in their sights. Not direct replacements for this year. And this package you are offering is pretty reasonable package of futures to get them started on a rebuild.

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15 Dec 2018 03:30:41
No chance of this even being considered in reality.

You would need to offer at least some quality and not a bunch of stuff you no longer want.

It would need to be more along the lines of Nylander and Liljegren or your first for Parayko.

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14 Dec 2018 22:57:47
Leafs
Simmonds

Flyers
Grundstrom
Borgman
2019 2nd
2019 3rd

Leafs
Montour
Ritchie

Ducks
Zaitsev
Sandin
2019 3rd
2020 7th

Leafs
Pitrengalo

Blues
Brown
Hainsey
Lillegreen
2021 1st
2020 2nd

Kapanen Matthews Nylander
Ritchie Tavares Marner
Marleau Kadri Simmonds
Johnsson Lindholm Hyman

Riley Pitrengalo
Gardiner Montour
Dermott Ozhiganov

Andersen
Sparks

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15 Dec 2018 02:09:28
Definitely not trading Grundtsrom.

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15 Dec 2018 03:07:02
I would think Blues would be wanting picks from this years draft, not 2021.

All those guys are good players and would be welcome addition to Leafs. Pietrangelo trade looks like a lot to be giving up. Dubas may not feel comfortable sacrificing that much of our future for what is basically going to be a one year rental. I don’t think Pietrangelo gets traded this year because of his injury. He will need to return first and be playing 100% again before an offer like this can be made. If Leafs wait until off season, we would likely be able to get Pietrangelo for a much smaller package similar to the Karlsson deal SJ made with Ottawa.

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14 Dec 2018 20:45:20
I'm one of the biggest leafs fans but I hate to admit it, if we're not active at the deadline then we don't win a cup. It's as simple as that. So with that being said here are some deadline moves the leafs should consider.

Leafs
Simmonds

Flyers
Trevor Moore or Carl grundstrom
2019 2nd
2020 4th

Leafs
Montour
Ritchie
2019 3rd

Ducks
Johnsson
Zaitsev
The other player who wasn't traded in the first trade

Leafs
Pietrangelo

Blues
Hainsey
Liligreen
Timashov
Brown
2019 1st

Leafs lines
Kapanen Matthews Nylander
Ritchie Tavares Marner
Marleau Kadri Simmonds
Ennis Lindholm Hyman

Riley Pitrengalo
Gardiner Montour
Dermott Ozhiganov

Andersen
Sparks

With this team and a good and healthy Andersen playoff run I believe we win the cup

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14 Dec 2018 19:24:26
Slavin+ Pesce + Teravainen for

Kapanen+ Zaitsev+ Kadri + 1st 2019 and 2020 2nd Round pick.

Kadri needs a change.

Big Trade

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14 Dec 2018 22:45:33
Take out Zaitsev and add Nylander and you're closer to being fair. Although I doubt Carolina would trade 2 defenseman.

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14 Dec 2018 23:27:25
If I provided Nylander my demands would be higher. Zaitsev or Gardiner is part of the trade, or the Leafs move on.

Waddell wants to make a trade with the Leafs, your statement recognizes Kadri's value.

To amend the trade

Slavin+ Faulk+ Teravainen

for

Zaitsev+ Kapanen+ Kadri + Picks.

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15 Dec 2018 03:15:13
I’m not sure Leafs could afford this one Heatdreamer. Slavin + Faulk ~ Kadri + Zaitsev, but Teravainen is going to be signing for at least the same money as Nylander got. Which probably pushes us too far over the cap that we would have to trade a significant piece off the current roster. Marleau would be the obvious choice, but trading him is going to be a chore.

Even if Leafs could make a smaller deal for either Slavin or Pesce, maybe using Kapanen, that would still give us a much improved defense.

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14 Dec 2018 15:46:51
Kapanen+ Gardiner for Slavin+ Faulk

Zaitsev + Brown +Borgman for Mayfield.

This has $8.75 MM going out for next year and $11.5 MM coming in.

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14 Dec 2018 22:46:43
For your first one, you have no chance at Slavin unless a minimum of Nylander is in there.

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14 Dec 2018 23:30:01
Nylander + Gardiner for Slavin + Faulk, I would accept that trade.

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14 Dec 2018 15:39:44
Zaitsev is not a cap dump player, he is still a good 2nd pairing RHD just with a not so good contract for us.

Leafs: Zaitsev, Brown, 1st, Timashov
Blues: Pietrangelo

Blues will get a decent return for him, he's hurt so he can't even play for them rn.

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15 Dec 2018 00:32:34
Agree BW. He is a decent 2nd RHD that Lou overpaid and over extended. Leafs will need that cap space to sign the young guns and need a cheaper option in the #4 slot. Has more value in a trade then people here give credit for. Incliding him in a trade to upgrade the #1 RHD is the way to go IMO. Moves Hainsey into the #2 RHD slot for $1.5M less and a spot he is better suited to. Maybe sign Hainsey next year for around $1M if no one is ready to challenge from within.

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15 Dec 2018 03:23:22
He’s a good, not great, defenseman. After Gardiner is gone, that contract sticks out like a sore thumb. If Zaitsev returns to form, then by the time his contract expires, could seem like a real steal. Right now though it is a bit of a bummer.

You have the right idea BW. Including him in a package is probably the easiest way to make him attractive to a prospective trading partner. At minimal, he provides long term cost certainty and personnel stability to a team like the Blues, who are facing a very uncertain future.

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