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26 Aug 2016 06:14:20
EDM- trades Eberle, Fayne

Toronto trades Gardiner, Corrado, Kapanen

JVR. Bozak. Eberle
Nylander. Matthews. Marner
SoSH. Kadri. Komarov
Martin. Laich. Hyman/ Brown.

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26 Aug 2016 06:34:18
As much as I would like to see this because I like Eberle and dislike Gardiner, I don't think EDM would go for this and I do want to see what Corrado can do this year. Just out of curiosity, but do people dislike Kapanen he seems to be in a lot of suggested trades?

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26 Aug 2016 06:11:52
Toronto acquires Burrows, Sbisa, 2017 2nd

Vancouver acquires Lupul, Gardiner, Corrado, Greening.

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26 Aug 2016 06:36:28
I like this one better than the EDM trade you're proposing. Plus it allows for some cap space and less contracts.

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26 Aug 2016 06:10:18
Toronto acquires Rick Nash, Dan Girardi

NYR- acquires Joffrey Lupul, Milan Michalek, Matt Hunwick, Kasperi Kapanen.

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26 Aug 2016 04:37:54
FLA-Huberdeau

TOR-JVR and Corrado.

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26 Aug 2016 01:24:21
Vancouver: Ryan Miller, Alex Burrows
Toronto: Joffrey Lupul, Brooks Laich.

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26 Aug 2016 01:06:58
Calgary: Mark Giordano, Emile Poirier
Toronto: Kasperi Kapanen, Jake Gardiner, Sam Carrick, Connor Carrick, Nikita Shoshnikov.

Toronto gets the dman they need and a very good leader. And a promising good rw prospect.

Mark Giordano - Morgan Rielly
Matt Hunwick - Nikita Zaitsev
Martin Marincin - Roman Polak.

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26 Aug 2016 06:23:32
I'm pretty sure Sam Carrick isn't in the Leafs organization anymore and seems like TOR is offering a lot of their future for perhaps a short-term gain with this suggestion.

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25 Aug 2016 23:15:56
Arizona is now out of the picture with todays trade for Bollard and Crouse (sounds like a law firm) .

It might be that we have to do the same and pay someone to take Lupul.

Carolina maybe. They have cap space.

How about:

Lupul and Rychel for a 2nd and a third. Crouse is better than Rychele but Leafs 2nd and 3rd will be much better than Arizona's. Lupul will play more games and score more points this year than Bolland.

Yes I'm into the Molson pops again.

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25 Aug 2016 23:44:52
Sorry that should be Carolina's 2nd and third.

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25 Aug 2016 08:17:00
CHI- TVR. Pokka, Kruger

TOR- Corrado. Hunwick, Kapanen, Holland, 2017 2nd.

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25 Aug 2016 08:15:40
TOR- Michalek, Lupul, Gardiner, 2017 2nd, Kapanen

NYR- Nash, Klein.

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25 Aug 2016 16:30:50
Good grief, try grabbing a clue.

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25 Aug 2016 22:32:16
I like his spirit!

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26 Aug 2016 06:19:59
I wouldn't even trade Gardiner for Nash straight up and I think Gardiner is over-rated mainly by Toronto Media. I would offer Lupul and a 4th for Klein. Just think the combination you're suggesting is way over the top. Nash is declining and has been ever since he left Columbus.

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25 Aug 2016 06:02:13
TOR- trades Michalek, Hunwick, C. Carrick, Connor Brown, Kapanen, two 2nds

WPG- Trouba, Stafford.

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25 Aug 2016 16:31:22
Give it a rest with the ridiculous proposals.

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24 Aug 2016 20:16:27
Ducks Trade
Fowler
Ritchie

Leafs Trade
JVR

Thoughts?

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25 Aug 2016 04:14:09
in your dreams no way ducks going to give up fowler the best defenceman they have even in a straight up trade for jvr even I love fowler because he is a newfie and a great dman I would not give up jvr anyway

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25 Aug 2016 04:14:45
As much as I like JVR, and can see him as a 30 goal scorer, they could never get both those guys straight up for him.

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25 Aug 2016 16:54:14
I could see ritchie and their first this year for JVR and maybe evewn throw something else in like add leivo, Holland, or a later pick. JVR will be gone in 2 years might as well add pieces for the future to get value from him.

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25 Aug 2016 23:32:17
Ritchie is a bum! He'll be a 3rd line player at best.

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24 Aug 2016 17:26:32
Leafs- leivo and sparks

For

Boston- M. Subban.

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25 Aug 2016 00:58:53
I'm going to say believable. But why? we have 2 goalies for the leafs, Sparks isn't bad did well in a few games with the leafs but also got rocked in some. I also want to see what Bibeau can do. I think Bibeau and Sparks might have potential for future.

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25 Aug 2016 16:55:19
I don't think bibeau or sparks will be a number 1 in the nhl, they both aren't technically sound. While last year goal tending lost the marlies the playoffs.

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25 Aug 2016 17:37:12
No reason to do this at this point I don't think, especially after signing enroth. Maybe we revisit goalie situation come expansion draft time. But for now we are set in the nhl and bibeau and sparks in the ahl and finally have just drafted a potential future goalie in Woll, no reason to trade away for another let's see what we have

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24 Aug 2016 16:50:13
Not saying this will happen, just looking for opinions on the value.

Leafs: JVR, 2017 1st (Top 3, maybe Top 5 Protected)

Flames: Dougie Hamilton, 2017 1st (Lottery Protected)

Thoughts on the value? Does anyone add? If so which team adds what pieces?

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25 Aug 2016 16:56:54
I think that it's to much. Look at it this way would you give Jvr and let's say dubois from this year assuming leafs end up with the 3rd or 4th for dougie hamilton and a pick at 17 or higher. doesn't really work on the leafs end.

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24 Aug 2016 14:40:10
Gardiner, Leivo, Holland
for
Chychrun, Perlini

Coyotes get an offensive dman with some young forward to play on the bottom 6
Leafs get cap space and young players for their rebuild

JVR, Loov
for
Dumba

Wild get more scoring for a deadly 2nd line
Leafs get a young dman.

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24 Aug 2016 15:45:56
I doubt the yotes would do that. A steal of a pick at 16 I think, and another 1st rounder for a top 4 D and bottom 6 players? I'd rather trade some young forward prospects who won't crack our depth charts (bracco, kappanen etc.) for some defensive help.

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24 Aug 2016 13:34:48
Toronto Trades
Michalek
CCarrick
2nd Round Pick 2017

Winnipeg Trades
Trouba

Thoughts?

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26 Aug 2016 00:55:59
Jets hang up the phone very quickly

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24 Aug 2016 04:14:37
Blue Jackets: D-J. Johnson ($4.35 X 2)

Leafs: 2017 2nd round pick/ 2017 3rd round pick and F-JJ. Piccinich.

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22 Aug 2016 20:54:34
Leafs sign Enroth for 750k

Good back up sign, good price - nice job Lou!

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24 Aug 2016 15:46:42
Low risk high reward. Keep these great moves coming!

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22 Aug 2016 18:48:45
Leafs get
Pavel Datsyuk
Chris Pronger
6th round pick
5th round pick

Coyotes get
Nathan Horton
Stephane Robidas
Joffrey Lupul
5tt round pick

Maybe add Jared Cowen and remove the draft picks.

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22 Aug 2016 20:16:59
Correction: Leafs only get a 5th round pick while Arizona gets a 6th round pick and a 7th round pick

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23 Aug 2016 18:00:33
What, exactly, would be the point of this?

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23 Aug 2016 19:14:59
There has to be an easier way to shed Lupul and gain a late round pick than this

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22 Aug 2016 18:16:10
just an idea. There are only a few ways to get a top pairing dman in the nhl now it seems, draft or find a team that has a few so here's my idea.
Jvr and kapanen for lindholm and Manson. Both are taking from positions or strength.
Literally a thought I e had. Who adds?

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22 Aug 2016 20:00:00
That pairing for Anaheim was one of the best in the NHL. I don't see them moving out 2 defensemen that were so impactful for them last year.

I think the leafs would have to add defenseman as this trade would weaken the Ducks d core too much.

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22 Aug 2016 23:39:13
You are probably right. It just sucks being in the position of have filled the cupboard full of forwards yet finding good to great dmen is harder and harder. Maybe patience is what I am lacking.

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23 Aug 2016 02:43:06
In that we agree. If I were GM I would have looked at taking a Dman with the Marner pick as I'm a big believer that defensemen need to be the first category to address in a rebuild. In saying that, I'm not upset with having Marner as he is a talented player but D take longer to develop in the NHL so its just a path I would have preferred.

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23 Aug 2016 14:40:10
Marner was the correct pick, he was the bpa (best player availible), he's a player you can easily use to draw hype (like he has done), and he is a solid 2 way winger. The leafs need to look for some NHL ready Dmen in the draft (easier said than done, I know). But I feel as the next couple of top draft picks from the leafs will all be Defenders

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23 Aug 2016 17:43:51
Mike97 I agree Marner was probably the most skilled player at that pick which is why i'm not upset with it but looking at the long term those forwards may be producing to no avail when we can't keep the puck out of our net.

Hopefully I'm wrong but you also said leafs will be picking defenders next couple drafts, what if the bpa is a forward again? See the dilemma?

I'm just saying Hanifin or Provorov would have been my personal route not that its for sure the right one

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23 Aug 2016 19:32:37
@Bettsy - yeah, patience is key here. They've taken huge steps, but this upcoming season is still likely to be a bottom 10 finish. An ANA-TOR trade of a forward like JVR for a top 4 Dman is probable this year, but not until the trade deadline, or if ANA plays terribly for a stretch (thanks Randy!). As for your proposal, it's just a bit greedy. Pick Manson OR Lindholm, and adjust the leafs pieces accordingly.

@ the rest of ya - Marner was the right choice. Drafting Dmen is of course ideal, but great Dmen can be had if you have the right deal at the right time (like the theft of Hamilton by CAL). Having a glut of talented forwards gives you the right deal. Trust this management group. They've done pretty much everything right so far in terms of laying the foundation for a great team over the next decade. They'll find us that top 2 Dman when the time is right.

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24 Aug 2016 15:36:08
Lindholm is still unsigned and may be available. Ducks need more scoring up front so a JVR for Lindholm scenario might make sense. As for the Marner pick it was the best LT choice. Hopefully this year we win a high pick again in the lottery and go after Liljegren. Looks good so far.

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22 Aug 2016 17:07:40
CAR Ryan murphy for Lupal and leivo.

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23 Aug 2016 16:04:11
Ineffective player, would rather have leivo

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22 Aug 2016 15:29:22
Leafs - Kapanen + Hunwick
Ducks - Manson.

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22 Aug 2016 17:11:29
Why would u do that kapanen is going to be good why are u giveing up on first rounders after 15 games

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24 Aug 2016 03:29:00
Getting a dman like Manson won't be cheap and Kapanen might be a player like his dad but Manson is something the Leafs need on the back end.
I'd take Manson over Polak.

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22 Aug 2016 00:23:32
Leafs - jvr
-at the trade dead line for a 1st and a 4th and a prospect,ur guess is as good as mine to what team

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23 Aug 2016 14:32:41
a first round pick from a contender is no better than a 2nd round pick

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21 Aug 2016 15:05:24
3 Team Trade Proposal

Rangers
Nash (Blues)
Girardi (Leafs)

Blues
Shattenkirk (Rangers)
3rd Round Pick 2017 (Leafs)

Leafs
Holland (Rangers)
Hunwick (Blues)

Breakdown
Nash, Girardi - Holland, Shattenkirk
Shattenkirk, 3rd Round Pick - Nash, Hunwick
Holland, Hunwick - Girardi, 3rd Round Pick

Thoughts?

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22 Aug 2016 17:09:43
Your giving nothing nd wanting girardi for free your nuts bud nuts

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25 Aug 2016 19:58:42
In what world does Nash + Girardi get Shattenkirk?

Hunwick is as good as Girardi and a lot cheaper.

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21 Aug 2016 13:44:41
Leafs: F-L. Komorov ($2.95 X 2), 2017 2nd round pick, 2018 3rd round pick, F-F. Gauthier (ELC)

Hurricanes: D-J. Faulk ($4.8 X 4), F-E. Lindholm ($2.7 X 2)

Lines:

JVR-Kadri-Lindholm/ Nylander
Sosh-Matthews-Lindholm/ Nylander
Michalek-Bozak-Marner
Martin-Laich-Hyman/ Holland/ Lupul

Rielly-Faulk
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Marincin-Polak/ Corrado

Anderson
Sparks (try to sign or trade for a backup)

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21 Aug 2016 14:17:12
Is this post a serious one? No way from Car.

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21 Aug 2016 14:36:19
A. Don't see the Canes doing this deal
B. Leafs forfeited that 2018 pick to NJ for Lou.

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21 Aug 2016 15:37:03
Wow I wish the leafs could rob them blind like this

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21 Aug 2016 03:38:52
Just thinking about this trade.

Toronto
Lupul + Holland

Dallas
Niemi.

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21 Aug 2016 03:08:23
Blues-JVR

TML-SHATTENKIRK

Fair Trade and helps both sides

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21 Aug 2016 06:36:53
Fair trade huh. ok go back to sleep

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21 Aug 2016 14:23:09
JVR for a top prospect and a high draft choice is what St.L would give up. The Blues are getting older and need to make a run for the cup this year. So they won't want to give up a key piece, even though JVR would help them at this time.

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21 Aug 2016 20:48:41
I'd rather have jvr. Shatt will be grossly overpaid soon. He's a good #3 defender. No more.

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23 Aug 2016 05:08:59
Go for Parayko instead

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20 Aug 2016 14:11:14
JVR may become a target of the teams that were looking to land Vesey and didn't. The most logical being NYI. Trade proposals are in order of preference!

Don't think that CBJ or NJ would be a fit, they are IMO in rebuilds too.

To TOR: F - M. Dal Colle + 2017 1st

To NYI: F - JVR

or

To TOR: F - L. Crouse + 2017 1st

To FLA: F - JVR

or

To TOR: F - A. Mantha + 2017 1st

To DET: F - JVR

or

To TOR: 2017 1st + 2018 2nd

To BUF: F - JVR

The Leafs then actually play Lupul this year to try and improve trade value and look to unload him at the trade deadline or buy him out next summer.

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20 Aug 2016 17:44:39
Why would they trade Lupul? He is the type of player they would keep so that he could be exposed in the expansion draft.

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20 Aug 2016 19:58:44
Poor JVR. He is shopped from team to team like an unwanted mangy cat. You want other teams up and coming players and squeal how overrated the player the posters are trolling for is when objective posters say the trade is too one sided in the leafs favor. JVR is great a player he is and worth the trade and more is the inevitable reply, followed by how little the respondent knows about hockey. Then the next post he is being offered up again like day old bread. Boy what loyalty some the pro leaf posters have to their so called stars. No wonder the latest saviors of Tor hockey, who will put an end to their 50 year cupless streak Stamkos and Vessey signed other places. Leave the poor JVR alone already.

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21 Aug 2016 16:10:57
I like the jvr to Detroit for Mantha and 2017 1 st rounder .

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21 Aug 2016 20:49:51
I. Like the Florida trade. Crouse could be a good replacement down the road

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19 Aug 2016 23:35:59
Since vesey is gone leafs should get rid of JVR for Dal Colle and Pulock. Toronto maybe throws in a 7th.

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20 Aug 2016 05:25:42
We have 0 left wingers then. Kerby Rychel should start 3rd-4th line and Dal Colle isn't ready for top 6 yet.

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20 Aug 2016 13:45:15
I like it! Although, not sure the Isles trade both prospects, however could see Dal Colle and 2017 1st.

The Leafs still have Lupul who at this point is not going anywhere. Play him and try and increase his value. Or they can use Komarov or Michalek.

The Leafs are NOT going to be good this year. One more year of really tough pain watching crap at least.

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20 Aug 2016 14:57:35
The leafs should hang on to JVR for now. If they feel they need to trade him do it at the trade deadline where they can maximize his value. If Tor is planning to tank this year then trade him now for the best package of prospects and draft choices they can get.

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20 Aug 2016 19:31:07
I would like to add that Lupul under no circumstances will be playing with the Leafs this year. Babcock will not let him take the place of a younger player. also if anyone remembers his locker stall was taken and given to someone else as well as he wasn't a part if the year end team pictures!. tell ya something:)

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19 Aug 2016 01:09:24
Tor-jvr

Flames - Dougie Hamilton

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19 Aug 2016 08:55:54
Sorry to bueat your bubble but we're going to have to give up a good amount more to get Dougie out of Calgary.

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19 Aug 2016 21:56:42
The flames have Hamilton at 5.75 for 5 years. He just had a great year. As far a Dmen go; he is the real deal.

So don't bother looking to get Dougie, he's staying there until Free Agency at least and if it took Hall to get Larson; what on earth do you think it's going to take to get Hamilton. Hamilton is way better than Larson.

Of course you could say Burkie already traded him once. So you really never know.

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20 Aug 2016 01:55:05
Yes it may have been wishful thinking but he did have a slow start and ended up with half his usual points and was -11 or something like that and with Burke u never know,I really don't think there going do much until after Las Vegas does their draft,on defence anyways

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18 Aug 2016 23:59:47
lupul +3rd get backup give up a pick dump lupul
Tor

Mclenny however u spell his name
Cbj

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19 Aug 2016 00:59:14
The Blue Jackets will want to keep the backup, not take on the extra 4.45 M for one year and 5.25 for the second, and have a player that will break at the of a whistle. And the 3rd does what for them?

doesn't work.

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20 Aug 2016 16:49:42
Lupul isn't going anywhere. He has more value in the lineup when healthy. Then the inevitable, he goes on the ir and a roster spot opens up. I rather have him than michalek and laich

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